Interview with Rose Sutherland, Author of A Sweet Sting of Salt

Born and raised a voracious reader of anything she could get her hands on in rural Nova Scotia, Rose Sutherland has an overactive imagination and once fell off the roof of her house trying to re-enact Anne of Green Gables. She’s continued to be entertainingly foolhardy since, graduating theatre school in NYC, apprenticing at a pâtisserie in rural France, and moonlighting as an usher and bartender in Toronto. Her hobbies include yoga, dance, singing, searching out amazing coffee and croissants, and making niche jokes about Victor Hugo on the internet. She’s mildly obsessed with the idea of one day owning a large dog, several chickens, and maybe a goat. 

I had the opportunity to interview Rose, which you can read below.

First of all, welcome to Geeks OUT! Could you tell us a little about yourself?

Oh gosh. I grew up in rural Nova Scotia, reading everything I could get my hands on, drawing, writing weird little stories, and being deeply uncool. The second I was finished high school, I left home to pursue a career in theatre —which I loved, but was ultimately frustrated by, so I went back to school in my 30’s to train as a pastry chef. At the same time, I started writing again, with no expectation of making a career of it—it was just for fun, to reconnect to something I used to love. Somehow, five years and a lot of hard work later, my first novel is being published.

What can you tell us about your debut book, A Sweet Sting of Salt? What drew you to write this project?

A Sweet Sting of Salt is a reimagining of the folktale of the Selkie Wife, as a queer historical fantasy set in early 19th century Nova Scotia. It’s told from the point of view of Jean, a young midwife who finds a mysterious woman in labour outside her home in the middle of the night. The stranger turns out to be the wife of Jean’s neighbour, but the entire situation raises instant red flags for the midwife, who sets out to discover what’s going on with the couple next door.

I’d been wanting to write a love story between two women for a while, but what really set the wheels in motion for Salty was a Tumblr post, of all things, about modern iterations of fairytale creatures. It mentioned selkies testifying before the UN about human trafficking, and boom! I had this galaxy brain moment, making utterly unhinged connections: Fifteen minutes later I was like: Oh, I found my story!

Since your debut is said to be inspired by the classic folktale “The Selkie Wife,” I’m curious what draws you in the selkie myth?

I have an interesting relationship with this myth. I’ve always connected with the setting, and the aching, capital-R Romantic sense of loneliness and longing baked into it. But it also left a bad taste in my mouth, because I couldn’t sympathize with the man whose wife disappears into the sea at the end. Even as a child, I was too keenly aware of how he’d forced her into a marriage through magical means, and the implications of that situation are even more disturbing to me now, as an adult. It’s the messy contrast between those different ways of viewing the story—as romance, or horror— that really drew me to it.

As a writer, what drew you to the art of storytelling, specifically speculative fiction?

Storytelling feels like it’s always been part of me. There’s a scene in this book that features a family repeating stories around the dinner table, and that’s very much how I grew up—some of those tales are cribbed directly from my parents, in fact. I love to entertain people, to open windows into other worlds, and to live in them myself as I work—my writing grew out of the same impulses as my love of theatre. I’ve always adored myth and folklore and history, and throughout my teens and early twenties I got very into fantasy and the gothic end of horror, gravitating toward books with a strong romantic subplot and focus on character. Even though I tend more toward historical than fantasy these days, the fingerprints of everything I loved reading in the past turn up all over the things I write now.

How would you describe your writing process?

Messy? But seriously, I’m very much a discovery writer. I come up with a situation, and some characters to throw into it, and spend my entire first draft figuring out what happens right along with them, and letting them lead the way forward as I discover more about who they are. I’ve tried planning and outlining but they don’t work for me—it just turns my brain in knots! Besides, it’s the wild surprises that the characters throw at me, the happy accidents and discoveries I make along the way that are the most fun and exciting for me, and where I often find the real heart of the story.

Growing up, were there any stories in which you felt touched by/ or reflected in? Are there any like that now?

There were so many that it’s hard to point at any single one, but an older book I feel particular affection for is Mercedes Lackey’s Arrows Of The Queen. A friend handed me a copy of it when I was thirteen years old and going through a really hard time. It was the first book I ever read that included queer characters, and I connected deeply with its young protagonist, Talia. No lie, I’m not sure I would have survived seventh grade without that book. The first time I read Sarah Waters’ Tipping The Velvet was a real Ah ha! moment for me.

I’ve also felt a particular affinity for Jo March since I was a child.

As a writer, who or what would you say are some of your greatest creative influences and/or sources of inspiration in general? 

I find inspiration in such random places sometimes that it’s hard to pinpoint, but I get a lot from just walking around and looking at the world, at old buildings and natural locations: I’ll see a place and know it’s going to turn up later, somehow. If I had an unlimited travel budget, I would never stop exploring. I also get a lot of ideas from historical and informational plaques. I spend a non-zero amount of time mucking around in weird corners of the internet, too— I’m fascinated by people’s niche interests and hyperfixations, and some of the deep dives I stumble across on unexpected topics send my imagination in unexpected directions. Conversations with my friends are good for that too—we’re like a flock of magpies, attracted to shiny and unusual tidbits; you never know what’s going to come up over coffee.

What are some of your favorite elements of writing? What do you consider some of the most frustrating and/or difficult? 

I adore settings! To me, finding the words to evoke not only how a place looks, but the entire feel of it—in all five senses— is its own kind of alchemy. Location is key for me in storytelling, the specifics of where and when impact everything.

Writing conversations makes me a bit nuts sometimes—not because I’m bad at it, but because it can get frustrating. It would probably be easier if my characters weren’t always trying to hide things from each other, saying things that aren’t exactly lies, but aren’t the whole truth, either…but where would the fun be without it? With Muirin, I added a language barrier on top of that, which made things even more complicated—clearly, I’m a glutton for punishment.

Many authors would say one of the most challenging parts of writing a book is finishing one. What strategies would you say helped you accomplish this?

Writing what I found exciting and wanted to read myself was a big part of it, but I have to give most of the credit to my trusted beta readers for giving me a sense of accountability. I send rough chapters to them as I draft, to read like a serial—I find it so much easier to push through the sticky bits when I know there’s someone else waiting to see what happens next, and if I really start to go off the rails, it’s nice to have someone to call me on it before things get too out of hand!

Aside from your work, what are some things you would want readers to know about you?

That I’m gobsmacked every day when I think how something I loved doing but dismissed as a viable career option more than twenty years ago and picked back up for fun ended up being the thing that finally stuck, after years of spinning my wheels and failing to find success with anything else in spite of all my best efforts. And maybe that I don’t have my sh*t particularly together, no matter how good a job I do seeming like it: I’m an ADHD hot mess who struggles with executive function, and it’s been a real battle finding the habits and routines that work for me, and I want other folks who are in the same boat to know that they’re not alone.

More than anything, I’d like folks to know how grateful beyond belief I am to have them as readers, to know that a book I wrote is finding its way into their hands, and hearts.  Thank you, thank you, thank you: I would bake you all a cake if I could!

What’s a question you haven’t been asked yet but that you wish you were asked (as well as the answer to that question)?

I wish folks would ask if there have been any life-imitates-art coincidences involved in the writing of this book, if only so I could tell them about the day I ended up with a man named Tobias working on the roof of my house following a chimney fire… at the exact same time that I was doing revisions on a scene that features A MAN NAMED TOBIAS WORKING ON THE ROOF OF HIS HOUSE. Utterly surreal.

What advice might you have to give for aspiring writers?

Write what you love, because you’re going to end up spending a lot of time with it. Make friends with other writers, and support each other. I’ll also paraphrase this particular gem from Neil Gaiman: If people tell you that there’s something wrong with your work, they’re probably right—but they’re almost always wrong about how you should fix it. I like this a lot; it always leads me to creative problem solving.

Are there any other projects you are working on and at liberty to speak about?

I have a couple of things on the go, but the one on the front burner right now is another historical, set in 18th century provincial France. It’s loosely based on a true story, and although I wouldn’t consider it a direct retelling, it is a riff on a popular fairytale. I’m having a lot of fun researching a very specific branch of French folklore as I work on the first draft!

Finally, what LGBTQ+ books/authors would you recommend to the readers of Geeks OUT? 

I always find it difficult to make blanket recommendations, as people have such varied tastes, but that said, my friend Isa Arsen’s debut Shoot The Moon came out earlier this year, and it’s spectacular: The main character is working with NASA in the lead up to the moon launch, and it’s speculative in a way that plays fast and loose with time.


For something completely different, if you’re into pirates, indie author Katie Crabb‘s epic Constellation trilogy is concluding this spring, with the third book, Sailing By Gemini’s Star, coming out on May 28.


Header Photo Credit Dahlia Katz

Interview with Crimson Chains, Creator of Star Crossed

Crimson Chains is a self-taught artist who has always loved to create comics and stories. Star themes and aesthetics are some of her favorite things to create, and Star Crossed is her first published work.

I had the opportunity to interview Crimson, which you can read below.

First of all, welcome to Geeks OUT! Could you tell us a little about yourself?

Hello! Thank you so much for reaching out, I am super excited! I go by Crimson Chains (She/her) and I’m an adopted Chinese American and creator of the comic Star Crossed. I’ve been drawing for nearly two decades and creating comics and stories for about the same amount of time!

What can you tell us about your comic, Star Crossed? Where did the inspiration for this story come from?

Star Crossed is about Polaris who is king of the stars and his knight Yildun. Due to Yildun’s lower status he feels unworthy to love Polaris, even though the king is willing to throw away tradition for their relationship. It’s a soft and sweet love story with a little bit of yearning!

The inspiration for this story is rather funny, in my opinion. For Star Crossed the story wasn’t something I thought of and then designed the characters, rather, it was the other way around. I drew a king with white hair, closed eyes and a star cloak and then a knight looking at him solemnly and instantly fell in love with the drawing. I posted it to my discord channel and talked with fans about it and slowly developed the story from there.

How did you find yourself getting into storytelling, particularly comics/graphic novels? What drew you to the medium?

I’ve always been drawing comics as far back as I can remember picking up a pen! I don’t think there’s been a long period of time in my life where I haven’t been creating a comic or two. Back in high school I was working on three at once and the longest one got to be 1800 pages. I think I just love watching a story come to life panel by panel, it’s very satisfying.

For those curious about the development behind making a comic, how would you describe the process?

My process is particularly chaotic! I wouldn’t really recommend it to most people, haha. I sort of have a general outline in my head about where the story will go, points A to B to C and then as I draw I let the parts between those points fill out. I think it can make the pacing a little messy at times, but, for me it’s a lot of fun.

To me, comic making is a marathon and not a race. It requires a lot of focus and it can be hard to slog through some scenes which aren’t as interesting or are difficult to draw. But, looking back on the story and all the places it goes is very rewarding.

As a creative, who or what would you say are some of your greatest creative influences and/or sources of inspiration?

I feel like it’s hard to name them, as, I’ve just always read a lot of comics and manga growing up and it’s all been very fun and interesting, but, I can’t say if there are any in particular which influence me! When I was much younger I’d often trace panels out of Calvin and Hobbes pages or try and copy a jpeg I found of Sesshomaru online somewhere. I think maybe it was just having access to a lot of really different art styles which inspired me to just keep drawing.

Growing up, were there any stories in which you felt touched by, reflected in, or that inspired your love for storytelling?

A lot of the stories I read growing up were fantasy based, I remember checking out basically every book I could find in the library which mentioned dragons! I’m not sure there was any particular story that inspired my love for stories, I just think I had a lot of fun reading and it grew from there.

Are there any like that now?

Lately I find myself really enjoying reading autobiographical comics! Definitely “Fun Home” is a really excellent read which I find myself going back to a lot. It’s very interesting seeing so many different perspectives and life experiences.

Besides your work, what are some things you would want readers to know about you?

Haha, I feel like there’s not a lot to know about me which would be interesting. I really like birds and I sometimes think it would be fun to be bitten by a goose.

What’s a question you haven’t been asked yet but wish you were (and the answer to that question)?

Oh, another tough one! Perhaps “How long does it take to draw a page of Star Crossed?” In which case the answer is that it takes anywhere from 6 to 8 hours depending on how complex the page is. My favorite part of the process is coloring the page.

Are there any projects you are working on or thinking about that you are able to discuss?

At the moment I am only working Star Crossed! But, I definitely have some plans down the line for my next comic. I’d really like to draw a comic based on the story of Swan Lake, except the cursed prince falls in love with the son of the sorcerer. It would be a light hearted comedy, I think!

What advice would you give to any aspiring creatives out there?

Especially with comics I think my biggest advice is to just start! The biggest roadblock I see with creating comics is that people can get too caught up in the planning and the idea they have to start out perfect. If you look at any comic creator you see their work get better as they go, both in story and in art, it’s okay if it’s not exactly what you want from the beginning. Tell your story, learn as you go, and enjoy the ride!

Finally, what LGBTQ+books/comics would you recommend to the readers of Geeks OUT?

Heaven Official’s Blessing is a great book series, I also enjoyed reading Cherry Magic for manga!

Interview with F.T. Lukens, Author of Otherworldly

F.T. Lukens (they/them) is a New York Times bestselling author of YA speculative fiction including the novels Spell Bound, So This Is Ever After and In Deeper Waters (2022 ALA Rainbow Booklist; Junior Library Guild Selection) as well as other science fiction and fantasy works. Their contemporary fantasy novel The Rules and Regulations for Mediating Myths & Magic was a 2017 Cybils Award finalist in YA Speculative Fiction and the Foreword INDIES Book of the Year Gold Winner for YA fiction and won the Bisexual Book Award for Speculative Fiction. F.T. resides in North Carolina with their spouse, three kids, three dogs, and three cats.

I had the opportunity to interview F.T., which you can read below.

First of all, welcome back to Geeks OUT! Could you tell us a little about yourself to readers who might not know you yet?

Hello, I’m F.T. Lukens. I’m an author of queer YA speculative fiction. My previous works include So This Is Ever After and Spell Bound.

What can you tell us about your latest book, Otherworldly? What was the inspiration for the project?

Otherworldly is a paranormal romance that blends elements of Faustian folklore and classical mythology in a contemporary fantasy setting. There are crossroads bargains, supernatural beings, liminal spaces, and a magical romance.

The inspiration was that I wanted to write a retelling and explore themes with different myths and folklore. I have always wanted to write a Faust-esque book because of a class I took in college. And magical bargains with dire consequences had started to appear in YA spaces again recently so it felt like a perfect time. I also relied on some classical myths and mythical figures as well as western European folklore to round out the worldbuilding.

As a writer, what drew you to the art of storytelling, particularly young adult fiction and romance?

The themes of young adult fiction—coming-of-age, finding yourself, making steps toward adulthood, making difficult choices—are themes to which most readers can relate. And I enjoy writing characters who are in that process of discovering themselves. As for romance, I am a fan of a good meet-cute and love writing them even if they are at times a meet-disaster. Also, I feel that books with a ‘happy ever after’ or a ‘happy for now’ are important for queer teens to be able to read and access as a part of YA shelves. It’s empowering to see queer characters thriving and overcoming odds in an adventure or romance.

How would you describe your creative process?

Honestly, it changes for each book. For Otherworldly, the process started with an idea for a specific scene between the two main characters. And from there I started brainstorming a narrative for how that scene would take place. However, I had started the novel as a high fantasy, more in the vein of So This Is Ever After but changed it to a contemporary fantasy. And when doing so, many of the details had to be altered, including that initial scene I had thought of. But the core of the story and relationships remained the same.

As a creative, who or what would you say are some of your greatest creative influences and/or sources of inspiration in general? 

I’m a big believer that inspiration can come from anywhere at any time. I’m inspired by the authors that I read when I was a teen/young adult – Douglas Adams, Mercedes Lackey, Neil Gaiman—but I’m also inspired by authors who are my contemporaries. Like Ryan LaSala, Julian Winters, CB Lee, Beth Revis, Becky Albertali, etc.

For inspiration in general – I watch tons of movies and tv shows – especially anything speculative. I also read widely, not only fiction novels and comics, but non-fiction, newspaper/magazine articles, and the occasional social media app (though I’ve taken a huge step back over the past few years). I love browsing tvtropes.com and similar websites and watching YT videos on various subjects. And I like to explore new music as well.

What are some of your favorite elements of bring a book to life? What do you consider some of the most frustrating and/or challenging? 

One of my favorite things to write are character interactions, relationships, and dialogue. I think it’s one of the aspects of writing where I excel.

One of the most challenging is conveying the picture or thought I have in my head to the page. Sometimes, I forget to add a detail or explain a concept because it makes sense to me and to the world I built in my mind. And there are times I don’t quite translate the idea to the page. Luckily, I have an amazing editor who assists with that process.

Many creators would say one of the most challenging parts of writing a book is finishing one. What strategies would you say helped you accomplish this?

Outlines! I’m a big fan of outlining. Recently, I’ve found that writing a detailed synopsis and then an outline of events through to the end has really helped with staying on task and following through. I also will utilize word sprints/timers and writing communities to help when I need encouragement. I use wordcount trackers because it’s helpful for my brain to see the numbers increase and to see the future finish line. And I like to envision the ‘happy ever after’ or ‘happy for now’ for the characters as well and it motivates me to give the characters that resolution.

Aside from your work, what are some things you would want others to know about you?

I’m an avid crocheter and fiber artist and currently have too much yarn. I have a deep affinity for the characters of Nightwing and Spider-man from DC and Marvel respectively. I collect Funko Pops and action figures of both. I try to attend DragonCon in Atlanta every year as both an author and a fan.

What’s a question you haven’t been asked yet but that you wish you were asked (as well as the answer to that question)?

I haven’t been asked about the research I did for Otherworldly. And I know it might seem weird that a paranormal romance book would require many hours of research, but it did. I re-read Chrisotpher Marlowe’s Doctor Faustus and did research on crossroads bargains in media and in other cultures. I re-read the myths of Eurydice and Orpheus. I refreshed my memory by reading about classical gods and goddesses to develop the characteristics of those in the world of Otherworldly. And I read tons of articles on folklore for specific references.

What advice might you have to give for other aspiring writers?

I would say to not give up. I know it can be difficult. Publishing is a challenging business and can be disheartening. But just keep writing, practicing, and developing your craft.

Are there any other projects you are working on and at liberty to speak about?

Yes. I just turned in a manuscript for my next YA novel. Currently, it’s titled The Future Tense and it’s pitched as Wednesday meets Heartstopper.

Finally, what LGBTQ+ books/authors would you recommend to the readers of Geeks OUT? 

I mentioned a few above but I think readers should check out Jason June, Ryan LaSala, Julian Winters, CB Lee, Terry J. Benton-Walker, & Sophie Gonzales.

Interview with Dane Liu, Author of LaoLao’s Dumplings

Dane Liu believes in the power of stories to affirm, transport, and transform. Her debut for young readers FRIENDS ARE FRIENDS, FOREVER is a Junior Library Guild Gold Standard Selection, a Kids Indie Next Pick, and a Best Book of the Year from the Bulletin of the Center for Children’s Books. It has been selected for national and international reading programs, including the Forest of Reading in Canada, the Panda Award in Asia, and the Gold House Book Club. As a writer, Dane hopes to empower young people to see the importance of their own stories and the beauty of sharing them.

I had the opportunity to interview Dane, which you can read below.

First of all, welcome to Geeks OUT! Could you tell us a little about yourself?

I write books for young readers. My family and I live in a forest in the Pacific Northwest.

What can you tell us about your latest project, LaoLao’s Dumplings? What was it like to work on this book?

LAOLAO’S DUMPLINGS is a picture book about intergenerational relationship, this food we love (dumplings!), and the different ways we show care. It is also a tribute to the North American communities of Chinatown and the relationships they nurture.

As a writer, what drew you to storytelling, specifically to picture books?

For me, storytelling is a game, a puzzle, a world to be constructed—character by character, scene by scene. It also helps me digest my own experiences and make sense of things. When my thoughts are heavy, I can unload them and let the paper help shoulder the weight. When my feelings are joyous, writing lets me live them twice. Then when we share our storytelling, we create a bond with someone else, a connection that wasn’t there before. Lucky for me, picture books connect me with our younger readers, though not only. I think the genre is for everyone. It is our easiest access to fine art.

What were some of your favorite picture book growing up? What are some of your favorite now?

I grew up in Northeastern China until my tween years. So I didn’t know picture books the way we know them here, until I became a parent. There are so many good picture books! I love MOLE IS NOT ALONE by Maya Tatsukawa, THE QUEEN IN THE CAVE by Júlia Sardà, THE WATER LADY by Alice B. McGinty and Shonto Begay, WHEN YOU CAN SWIM by Jack Wong, Mr. FIORELLO’S HEAD by Cecilia Ruiz, and DESERT QUEEN by Jyoti Rajan Gopal and Svabhu Kohli.

Growing up, were there any books/stories in which you felt touched by/or reflected in? Are there any like that now?

When I was a kid, there weren’t many stories about Asian girls in North America. Today (finally!), we see more and more books that center Asian kids, their families, and their many human layers, such as MEASURING UP by Lily LaMotte, WHILE I WAS AWAY by Waka T. Brown, STARGAZING by Jen Wang, THE TRYOUT by Christina Soontornvat, FRONT DESK by Kelly Yang, and Maizy Chen’s Last Chance by Lisa Yee. I would love to see more stories that look at Asian families through the lens of humor.

How would you describe your general creative process?

When an idea comes, I write it down right away. I used to jot it on paper. These days, I use Notes on my phone to avoid misplacing it. LAOLAO’S DUMPLINGS began in Notes as a dialogue between a girl and her grandmother. FRIENDS ARE FRIENDS, FOREVER began with my childhood memory of making paper-cut snowflakes and freezing them outside. Some ideas never go beyond Notes. But ones that stay with me, where the characters keep yapping in my ear and I see them in everything I do, become first drafts. Then I revise. I get feedback from my critique group and my agent. Then I revise some more.

As a creative, who or what would you say are some of your greatest creative influences and/or sources of inspiration in general?

I think everything is a source. Every thing can be the seed for a story. For me, being a creative is a lifetime practice of paying attention and growing those observations into something new.

What are some of your favorite elements of writing? What do you consider some of the most frustrating and/or challenging? 

My favorite is humor. The most challenging is also humor. When it works, humor deepens everything.

Aside from your work, what are some things you would want others to know about you?

I love nature, and I love city. My husband and I live in a forest, but we met and married in New York City. I return often, including for LAOLAO’S DUMPLINGS’ book launch, and it feels like home. I have two little kids. Our family of four is fluent in English, Mandarin, German, and French.

What’s a question you haven’t been asked yet but that you wish you were asked (as well as the answer to that question)?

My mom and my kids are the inspiration for LAOLAO’S DUMPLINGS. The exact moment was a conversation I overheard. A few years ago, my daughter asked Laolao if they could eat dumplings. It was a weeknight. There was no celebration. So my mom said, “Which tooth of yours craves my dumplings?” And my daughter answered, “All of them!” I wrote this exchange in Notes right away and grew the idea into a story.

What advice might you have to give for other aspiring picture book writers?

Write foremost for yourself. You are the story’s first audience. The story (and this pursuit) isn’t working if you are not entertained. Read in the genre and widely. Stay observant. Write badly then rewrite. Join a critique group. Definitely join a critique group. Learn by giving and receiving feedback. Read more. Take risks with your storytelling. Repeat.

Writing takes guts, optimism, and persistence. It requires consistency, showing up at your keyboard and in your notebook. It takes confidence and humility, skill and luck, pushing and letting go. It takes passion, compassion, patience, and trust. Writing also gives. You know you are a writer, when you feel terrible not writing. When in that moment your story finally works, you feel indescribable joy. Being a writer has longevity when we accept what it takes and gives.

Are there any other projects you are working on and at liberty to speak about?

I am working on a board book, a chapter book series, a historical fiction picture book, a historical fiction middle grade, and a collaboration with an illustrator friend.

Finally, what books/authors would you recommend to the readers of Geeks OUT?

On my nightstand, there is LUNAR NEW YEAR LOVE STORY by Gene Luen Yang and LeUyen Pham, MEXIKID by Pedro Martín, THE CREATIVE ACT by Rick Rubin, NEPANTLA (one of my favorite poetry collections), THE LIFTERS by Dave Eggers, and ONE MORE JAR OF JAM by Michelle Sumovich (my critique partner!) and Gracey Zhang. I also recommend books by Cozbi A. Cabrera, Tracy Subisak, ShinYeon Moon, Sophie Blackall, Sydney Smith, Lian Cho, Lynn Scurfield, Beatrice Alemagna, and Julie Flett.

Interview with Yilin Wang, Author of The Lantern and the Night Moths: Five Modern and Contemporary Chinese Poets in Translation

YILIN WANG 王艺霖 (she/they) is a writer, a poet, and Chinese-English translator. Her writing has appeared in Clarkesworld, Fantasy Magazine, The Malahat Review, Grain, CV2, The Ex-Puritan, The Toronto Star, The Tyee, Words Without Borders, and elsewhere. She is the editor and translator of The Lantern and Night Moths (Invisible Publishing, 2024). Her translations have also appeared in POETRY, Guernica, Room, Asymptote, Samovar, The Common, LA Review of Books’ “China Channel,” and the anthology The Way Spring Arrives and Other Stories (TorDotCom 2022). She has won the Foster Poetry Prize, received an Honorable Mention in the poetry category of Canada’s National Magazine Award, been longlisted for the CBC Poetry Prize, and been a finalist for an Aurora Award. Yilin has an MFA in Creative Writing from UBC and is a graduate of the 2021 Clarion West Writers Workshop.

I had the opportunity to interview Yilin, which you read below.

First of all, welcome back to Geeks OUT! Could you tell us a little about yourself?

Hello! Thank you so much for having me. I’m a queer Chinese diaspora writer, poet, literary translator, and editor living on the stolen and occupied lands of the Musqueam, Squamish, and Tsleil-waututh nations (known colonially as Vancouver, Canada). I’m a genderqueer femme who is biromantic, demiromantic, and asexual. My book The Lantern and the Night Moths is forthcoming with Invisible Publishing available now.

What can you tell us about your upcoming book, The Lantern and the Night Moths: Five Modern and Contemporary Chinese Poets in Translation? What inspired this project?

The Lantern and the Night Moths 灯与夜蛾 is my debut book. It contains a selection of poems by five modern and contemporary Chinese poets whose work collectively span the past century. Each poet’s work is accompanied by a short essay that I wrote, where I delve into what their work means to me personally, the translation process, and any literary, cultural, or sociopolitical contexts.

I first started translating Chinese poetry around six years ago, in a creative writing workshop during my MFA program, when I became frustrated that many of the stories and poems being studied in English and creative writing programs tend to be very Eurocentric in form and content. I started deliberately seeking out more Chinese literature to read—both in Mandarin and in translation.

While I found many translations of classical Chinese poetry, especially translations of poems written in the Tang dynasty, many of the collections are completed by Sinologists for niche, academic readerships. Others are often full of outdated, orientalist, and exoticizing language. For Chinese poetry in particular, there are even numerous “bridge translations”–translations where a writer who couldn’t actually read the original text simply adapted and rewrote a “literal translation,” presenting their own imagined version of a Chinese poem, without sensitivity for the original text’s emotional nuance, stylistic features, and surrounding context.   

Frustrated by this phenomenon and the underrepresentation of BIPOC heritage speaker translators, I drew on my skills as a poet and my multilingual background to start translating classical and modern Chinese poetry. I eventually decided to create an anthology that could serve as an accessible introduction to modern Sinophone poetry, aimed especially at members of the Sino diaspora, fellow writers and translators, and general readers interested in Chinese literature.

Regarding the five poets chosen for this project, what drew you to these specific names?

I have chosen the work of five poets who I each consider to be a literary zhīyīn 知音. The first poet included in the anthology, China’s first modern feminist poet, Qiu Jin 秋瑾, wrote frequently about her own longing for a zhīyīn. A zhīyīn literally means “someone who understands your music” or “someone who understands your songs.” The word is used to describe a close friend, a kindred spirit with shared ideals, a queerplatonic soulmate.

When I translate Qiu Jin’s work—and the work of the other poets I have chosen for the anthology—I feel like I am in conversation with fellow zhīyīn. While each poet has their own interests and styles, I see their work collectively as a series of ars poeticas on the art of modern poetry in Chinese. Through the anthology, I hope to introduce readers to a wide range of voices, from the feminist poet Qiu Jin 秋瑾 (who wrote at the end of the Qing dynasty) to the celebrated modernist poets Fei Ming 废名 and Dai Wangshu 戴望舒 (who wrote in the first half of the 20th century) to the talented contemporary poets Zhang Qiaohui 张巧慧 and Xiao Xi 小西.

Out of all five poets included, I especially have a soft spot in my heart for Qiu Jin’s poetry. As a genderqueer femme, I connect deeply with her words that reflected on women’s friendships and cross-dressing, subverted heteronormative views on relationships and marriage, and advocated tirelessly for gender equality. Folks interested in listening to me discuss her work can check out this podcast interview with The Ace Couple.

Translating is often described as an art and a science. How would you tend to describe it and your own relationship to the work of translating?

In the book, I try to foreground the invisible labour that translators do, work that is often overlooked and underappreciated. The first translator’s essay is written in the form of a letter addressed to the poet Qiu Jin. A letter is a very personal, intimate form of writing. I chose the format because I see translation as a dialogue, unfolding between the translator and the poet, between the source text and the target language, between the translation and its readers.

In another essay, I also discuss that while the art of writing is often compared to pregnancy and childbirth, the work of a translator is closer to that of a maternity nurse. “How does one go about bringing a literary text, so tender with warmth, vulnerabilities, and lyricism, into a distant, unfamiliar world that it might not be ready to encounter? I must guide it with gentle hands to ensure its spirit is kept alive and intact during this transformative, and often excruciating process.”

The book includes five essays on translation in total, where I share my personal journey as a translator, reflections on the process, anecdotes about the poets, and historical and sociopolitical contexts. I’m always curious about the creative practices of other poets and translators, so I hope these essays can be interesting and informative to others in a similar way.

In your bio, it states that you are “a big fan of wǔxiá and xiānxiá fiction, historical c-dramas, Classical Chinese poetry, and East Asian storytelling and narrative structures.” If you wouldn’t mind, I would love to hear any of those stories that you would consider to be some of your personal favorites?

I wrote a primer on wǔxiá fiction for SFWA’s bulletin before for folks who are not familiar with the genre. I always recommend folks to read Jin Yong’s Legend of Condor Heroes 射雕英雄传, which I consider to be a classic in the genre. I also enjoyed the 2017 c-drama adaptation of the same series. Some other favourite xiānxiá dramas include Journey of Flower 花千骨, Love Between Fairy and Devil 苍兰诀, and Once Upon a Time in Lingjian Mountain 从前有座灵剑山.

For folks who want to learn more about Chinese narrative structures, I strongly recommend Ming Dong Gu’s Chinese Theories of Fiction; it’s an academic book and fairly dense, but really insightful. It does an exceptional job providing a framework for thinking about Chinese narratives and story structures.

I would absolutely recommend The Lantern and the Night Moths to readers and audiences who are interested in c-dramas and Chinese media in general, because I consider poetry to be inseparable from Chinese popular culture. Many dramas regularly quote and allude to poems full of idioms and allusions, and understanding the poetry can really help audiences better appreciate Chinese dramas and films. While my book focuses on modern poetry, the poems do build on and engage with the classical poetry tradition, and folks interested in that can check out this bingo card that I created a while back to introduce folks to common tropes in Classical Chinese poetry.

As a creative, who or what would you say are some of your greatest creative influences and/or sources of inspiration in general? 

I have so many influences, but I am a huge fan of Ken Liu’s work, both as a writer and translator. I love Gillian Sze’s book Quiet Night Think, which I re-read while working on this anthology. I also really enjoying reading a wide range of nonfiction on the art of translation; when I was fighting the British Museum over their misuse of my translations without permission, I drew strength and inspiration from the chapbooks Say Translation is Art by Sawako Nakayasu and Notes on Mother Tongues by Mirene Arsanios.

Are there any other projects you are working on and at liberty to speak about?

I’m currently working on translating a full-length collection of Qiu Jin’s poetry. She wrote over two hundred poems during the thirty-one years of her life, and I’d like to translate a selection of her most representative and powerful poems to share them with more readers. I’m also working on a collection of my own poems about multilingualism, translation, and Sino diaspora experiences.

Finally, what LGBTQ+ books/authors would you recommend to the readers of Geeks OUT? 

Some poetry books written in English I’d recommend are Isabella Wang’s Pebble Swing, Grace Lau’s The Language We Were Never Taught to Speak, Larissa Lai’s Iron Goddess of Mercy, and Mary Jean Chan’s Flèche. For readers who understand Mandarin, I recommend

同在一個屋簷下:同志詩選, an anthology of queer Taiwanese poetry.


Header Photo Credit Divya Kaur

Interview with Michael Paramo, Author of Ending the Pursuit: Asexuality, Aromanticism and Agender Identity

Michael Paramo is a Xicanx researcher, writer, poet, and artist born and raised in the suburbs of southern California (on Tongva land) in a Mexican-American family. They created AZE in 2016, a platform that publishes the writing and artwork of asexual, aromantic, and agender authors. AZE has been recognized for its work in books and by several universities, whilst Paramo’s own writing has been published in the Video Game Art Reader and cited in the Handbook for Human Sexuality Counseling. Their visual art has been published in the University of New Mexico’s Blue Mesa Review and they release music under the name COZMECA.

I had the opportunity to interview Michael, which you can read below.

First of all, welcome to Geeks OUT! Could you tell us a little about yourself?

Thank you! I am a queer Mexican-American researcher, writer, and visual artist. I grew up in Orange County, California on the traditional and unceded territory of the Tongva people. My research and creative work broadly focuses on interconnectivity, transformation, and hybridity in the modern/colonial world. Aside from writing and visual artwork, I have also recently developed an interest in creating music, which I do under the name COZMECA.

What can you tell us about your first book, Ending the Pursuit: Asexuality, Aromanticism and Agender Identity? What was the inspiration for this project?

Ending the Pursuit is a book examining asexuality, aromanticism, and agender identity that calls for a deconstruction of the dominant ways we imagine sex, romance, gender, intimacy, love, and relationships. Each chapter focuses on a different aspect of this task. One chapter aims to deconstruct the idea that how we think about attraction should always be firstly sexual or romantic. Another chapter examines how some of our ideas about romantic love and desirability are influenced by colonial discourses that upheld myths of racial hierarchy. The book also features a lot of poetry sprinkled throughout as a place for readers to reflect on the subjects in a different, more creative, manner.

The book was inspired from my work with AZE, an online journal publishing the written and artistic works of asexual, aromantic, and agender people. When I first created the journal in 2016, I never imagined a book emerging out of it. However, as the journal evolved from a platform primarily focused on asexuality, I began to recognize the connections between asexual, aromantic, and agender experiences more readily. I realized that there was a lot left to be said about how these identities each destabilize dominant expectations of sex, romance, and gender. This motivated me to undertake the writing of Ending the Pursuit in order to consolidate all of my thoughts in one place.

As an author what drew you to writing?

What drew me most to writing was its potential to bring structure to conceptual thoughts that I wanted to express. It became a way for me to respond to the world around me and process my feelings in a deeper, more reflexive way. Poetry in particular has always flowed out of me more readily than analytical writing, the latter of which tends to be a more painful and slow leakage.

Growing up, were there any books/stories in which you felt touched by/ or reflected in? Are there any like that now?

When I was young, I was directed by my mother to read children’s storybooks with vibrant illustrations and themes that focused on fostering creativity, such as Harold and the Purple Crayon and Mouse Paint. I also worked through various craft books, where I was instructed to cut and paste expressive objects together, some of which remained fixtures of our household during holidays. These gestures made me feel like my creativity was supported by my family as a child, which excited my capacity to express myself. Lately I find myself researching various aspects of how colonialism has damaged the human imagination. Many of these historical accounts that I am drawn to have come to influence my creative work. I have often felt compelled to create works that focus on remembering the past that informs our present.

How would you describe your general creative process?

I tend to create intuitively, with an openness to being guided rather than trying to predetermine what is to come from the process. I sometimes might revisit a work months or even years later to continue its evolution in a new direction that I had not previously foreseen. Dwelling in the unknown of what is to come is essential to my creative process.

As a creative, who or what would you say are some of your greatest artistic and creative influences and/or sources of inspiration in general?

Music is my biggest source of inspiration and motivation in my work. If the music I am listening to stimulates my artistic spirit, then it guides me into a state of mind where being creative is more accessible to me. Some albums that have been influential to me in this way are Björk’s Vespertine, Fiona Apple’s Fetch the Bolt Cutters, Kelela’s Raven, and Shygirl’s Nymph.

What are some of your favorite elements of writing? What do you consider some of the most frustrating and/or challenging? 

I enjoy writing when I feel like I can swim in an idea through words. I enjoy discovering how writing can be a space for my imagination to relieve itself. This is what I consider to be theoretical writing. Conversely, writing becomes frustrating when I am being compelled to write for approval. It is in these instances that writing becomes constrained by other people’s perceptions and the task becomes monotonous.

What are some things for someone who is still new to asexuality/aromanticism/agender identity you would want people to take away from this interview?

I want people to remember that the human experience is broader than we have been led to believe. There are certain sexual, romantic, and gendered expectations that have been placed upon us that make it seem like it is impossible for people to not experience sexual attraction, not desire a romantic relationship, or not fit within the gender binary. However, acknowledging the vastness of human experience includes acknowledging that asexuality, aromanticism, and agender identity are possible.

Aside from your work, what are some things you would want others to know about you?

Nature is a very strong grounding force in my life that has encouraged me to stabilize myself in the modern/colonial world. The ocean has helped me feel peace. Just standing in the shoreline waters can relieve me of any deep stress or anxiety that has been incubating inside of me. Being in the presence of massive ancient trees, such as coastal and giant redwoods, is another way I try to relax myself.

What’s a question you haven’t been asked yet but that you wish you were asked (as well as the answer to that question)?

Who has been most supportive to you in helping make your work possible?

My mother has been the biggest supporter of my work. She has repeatedly encouraged me to continue being creative and has helped me establish a stronger sense of confidence in my voice. I would also like to thank my father for his financial support and my brother for being a close friend to me. There have also been many supportive people who have propelled my work forward at different times in my life that I would like to thank, including Susie Woo, Joelle Owusu, and Pilar Riaño-Alcala.

What advice might you have to give for other aspiring creatives/ graphic novelists?

  1. Find and keep searching for music and art that relaxes you and puts you in a place where you feel you can express yourself creatively.
  2. Don’t create to get published or to pursue validation from others, not only because this places undue weight on acceptance or rejection from others, but also because this can deeply cloud the creative process.
  3. Build your body of work. Although everyone works at a different pace, try not to dwell too long on one particular work trying to pursue some idea of perfection. Try to remain open to whatever comes to you creatively.

Are there any other projects you are working on and at liberty to speak about?

I am working on my dissertation that will examine and expand upon the hybrid methodology I employed in Ending the Pursuit, where I interweaved memoir, poetry, and historical research. I intend to also focus on the incorporation of visual artwork and soundscapes toward the development of critical reflection in my dissertation. I believe the purpose is to explore how such a hybrid critical and creative exploratory approach can foster a deeper understanding of ourselves in relation to complex social issues.

Finally, what LGBTQ+ books/comics/authors would you recommend to the readers of Geeks OUT

Refusing Compulsory Sexuality: A Black Asexual Lens on Our Sex-Obsessed Culture by Sherronda J. Brown

Belly of the Beast: The Politics of Anti-Fatness as Anti-Blackness by Da’Shaun L. Harrison

Interview with Ali Hazelwood, Author of Bride

Ali Hazelwood is the New York Times bestselling author of The Love Hypothesis as well as a writer of peer-reviewed articles about brain science, in which no one makes out and the ever after is not always happy. Originally from Italy, she lived in Germany and Japan before moving to the US to pursue a PhD in neuroscience. When Ali is not at work, she can be found running, eating cake pops, or watching sci-fi movies with her three feline overlords (and her slightly-less-feline husband).

I had the opportunity to interview Ali, which you can read below.

First of all, welcome to Geeks OUT! Could you tell us a little about yourself? 

Thank you for having me! My name is Ali, and I’m a romance writer!

What can you tell us about your latest book, Bride? What was the inspiration for this story?  

When I was growing up and discovering romance, my favorite novels had werewolves and vampires (think Twilight, but steamier). My favorite authors were Kresley Cole, Nalini Singh, JR Ward, and Christine Feehan. This book is very much a paranormal romance that’s a homage to them.

As a writer, what drew you to the art of storytelling, specifically speculative fiction and romance? 

I started writing with fanfiction. I’ve always found it very hard to let go of characters and stories that I loved, so I found myself trying to write more about them.

How would you describe your writing process?

It’s very messy, and it’s still very much evolving. I’ve noticed that when I have an idea I have to let it mull for a while before I’m fully ready to write the story. And also that even though I hate giving myself daily writing goals, it’s the only way I get the book done.

Growing up, were there any stories in which you felt touched by/ or reflected in? Are there any like that now?

Absolutely—so many. It’s actually hard to list all of them, because the way I “bond” with characters by finding their most relatable quality, which means that I see myself reflected in lots of stories.

As a writer, who or what would you say are some of your greatest creative influences and/or sources of inspiration in general? 

Fanfiction, romance novels, and whatever my hyperfixation is at any given time.

What are some of your favorite elements of writing? What do you consider some of the most frustrating and/or challenging? 

I really enjoy the initial stage of coming up with a story idea and starting the drafting process. I think the hardest part of me is having to reread a book years after it’s written to get it ready for publication, mostly because at that point I cannot really make substantive changes.

Many authors would say one of the most challenging parts of writing a book is finishing one. What strategies would you say helped you accomplish this?

Edit forward. Don’t go back and edit what you’ve already written, just finish the first draft and make notes of things to change later. You can’t edit something you haven’t written, so getting a (even very bad) first draft is the most important thing.

Aside from your work, what are some things you would want others to know about you?

I have three cats, and they’re currently all gathered around me, staring. I think they want dinner?

What’s a question you haven’t been asked yet but that you wish you were asked (as well as the answer to that question)?

I’m not sure there is one. I’m pretty chatty, so if someone doesn’t ask me a question I usually just overshare? 

What advice might you have to give for other aspiring writers?

Writing can be lonely, so make sure you have a great support network gathered around you.

Are there any other projects you are working on and at liberty to speak about?

My next paranormal book, Bride, will be out in February, and my next contemporary romance, Not In Love, will be out in June.

Finally, what books/authors would you recommend to the readers of Geeks OUT? 

So many:

Sex, Lies and Sensibility by Nikki Payne—best Sense and Sensibility retelling ever.

A Tempest of Tea by Hafsah Faizal—one of my favorite vampire books ever.

The Name Drop by Susan Lee—a fantastic YA romance with mistaken identities.

Interview with Rose Bousamra, Co-Creator of Frizzy

Rose Bousamra is a freelance illustrator and comic creator born and based in Michigan. Frizzy (with Claribel A. Ortega)winner of the 2023 Pura Belpré Award for Children’s Text, is their first graphic novel, with their solo debut graphic novel Gutless also being published with First Second. When they’re not making or reading comics they love baking sweets and playing fantasy video games.

I had the opportunity to interview Rose, which you can read below.

First of all, welcome to Geeks OUT! Could you tell us a little about yourself?

Thank you so much for having me! I’m genderqueer cartoonist Rose Bousamra, I mostly work on graphic novels, comics, and illustration. I’m based in Michigan, where I grew up, and most of my work is inspired by forests, fantasy, and the queer gaze.

What can you tell us about the graphic novel you recently illustrated, Frizzy?

Frizzy tells the story of Marlene, a Dominican-American kid living in the Bronx who goes to the salon every Sunday to get her curly hair straightened because she’s been told that’s what is “presentable” or “good hair”. But Marlene hates going to the salon, going so far as to imagine herself as her super-hero alter ego to cope. She loves her curls, and after trying to wear her hair curly for the first time, she ends up facing bullies at school, judgmental comments from her own family members, and more. Then, with the help of her cool Tia Ruby, she not only learns how to care for her hair, but that all hair is good and beautiful, no matter what. The Spanish language edition, titled Rizos and translated by Jasminne Mendez, is out now.

What was it like working on that project with the author, Claribel A. Ortega?

Working with Claribel was a dream. I feel so lucky that she trusted me with such a poignant and personal story. There was so much love and detail that she put into the script, with such thoughtful pacing and character development, it made my job very easy. I had the privilege of going on a Frizzy book tour with Claribel last year, and can confirm she’s not just a great author but also one of the kindest, most caring and funny people I’ve met.

As a creative, what drew you to the art of storytelling, particularly to the realm of comics/graphic novels?

Growing up, I was a really shy and quiet kid, who only really opened up when talking about my art. I’ve always struggled with social anxiety, but I found art was something I could always rely on to say something I didn’t have the courage to say out loud. Through lots of stressful and dark times in my life, getting lost in a story always helped me survive. Over time I came to love comics as a way to tell stories because while I wasn’t yet practiced in writing, I could use my drawings to help tell the story I wanted to tell.

How would you each describe your creative process?

It’s different for every project, but generally starting a new comic starts with what feelings, themes, or tropes I want to explore. For example I knew for Gutless I wanted to explore the trope of a puppet being brought to life who questions their place among humans, and all the other characters, the story and world were born from there. Then I sketch character designs, places, and interactions until I have some idea of what I want the story to be like. I’ll make a story-specific playlist, and listen to it while I plot the story from beginning to end. Then I go in and write more detailed dialogue while sketching thumbnails, or layouts, because developing the words and visual flow helps me better visualize the finished page. Then it’s time for sketching and I sketch the entire thing before I go in with the line work. Then, the word balloons and dialogue are added, then finally the colors.

As a creative, who or what would you say are some of your greatest artistic influences and/or sources of inspiration?

I think early CLAMP manga like Chobits and Magic Knight Rayearth first inspired my need to decorate everything with flower petals and sweeping tresses of hair, as well as a deep love for the detailed, skillful black line work manga is typically known for. My biggest inspiration currently is the manga series Witch Hat Atelier, both for the wonderful, touching fantasy storytelling and the incredible line work by artist Kamome Shirahama.

Growing up, were there any stories in which you felt touched by/ or reflected in? Are there any like that now?

As a kid I was a feral tomboy who didn’t have the word for what I felt, which was nonbinary, so I identified with stories where girls were subverting gender roles in some way. Sailor Moon was the first story like that I fell in love with, and now it’s not hard to see why the story about a girl who embraces so many traditional girly things and turns them into powerful weapons to fight for the good of the world resonated with little Rose. Princess Mononoke was another story that let me see characters who were somehow going against their gender expectations; in it, Ashitaka is a man who is tender and kind, whose strength is ultimately his compassion, while San is a feral girl raised by wolves and even denies her humanity in favor of the wolves she was raised by. Today one of my favorite depictions of a nonbinary character, as well as the experience of having a big, messy queer family that makes me feel seen is the show Our Flag Means Death.

What are some of your favorite elements of illustrating and the creative process in general? What do you consider some of the most frustrating and/or challenging?

I love designing characters, especially fantasy characters because there are so many options and possibilities outside of just drawing humans. I love what a good character design can tell you about a character right away, before you even read the story. I also really love collaborating with others to make comics because every person brings something new and fresh to the table.

Many creators would say one of the most challenging parts of writing a book is finishing one. What strategies would you say helped you accomplish this?

It took a long time for me to understand that finishing something is a skill in and of itself, and it is a massive challenge. When I first was publishing Gutless as a webcomic, I didn’t have a script or outline. I was working page-by-page, and ended up writing myself into a lot of corners. When I developed it for a graphic novel format I had to rework it entirely, giving it a proper beginning, middle, and end. I studied a lot of the structures of stories I considered to be the most satisfying and provoked some kind of feeling in me. It would have been much less of a challenge, I feel, if I had started with short comics first and had more practice with crafting a story from beginning to end. A big goal of mine is getting better at editing my stories down to more digestible lengths so I can tell more of them.

Aside from your work, what are some things you would want others to know about you?

When I’m not working I play sad songs on my ukulele and play a lot of fantasy video games. I’m really into Final Fantasy XIV and Baldur’s Gate 3 right now, and if I’m not posting about comics I’m usually posting my video game fanart because drawing silly fanart and engaging in fandom is what helped me grow the most as an artist.

What’s a question you haven’t been asked yet but that you wish you were asked (as well as the answer to that question)?

I wish I had more opportunities to talk about what age I got my first real job in comics, because it’s easy to see someone succeeding at a young age and compare yourself and start to panic, thinking you’re falling behind. I was one of many who ended up going to college for something I thought would be more profitable than what I really wanted to do, which was art. When I decided to seriously pursue comics, I thought that I’d wasted valuable time getting a fashion degree instead of studying illustration professionally. The truth is, there’s never a right time to do your dream, and studying things outside of art only made me a better artist in the long run. I was 26 when I got that first comic job, a 50 page chapter of an ongoing webcomic called Ladies Book Club, and 27 when I signed on for Frizzy. I was 30 by the time Frizzy was actually published.

What advice might you have to give for other aspiring writers?

The best advice I can give is to make friends who are doing what you want to do, who are at a similar level as you in their career. The best way to network is to build a community of creatives who lift each other up. I don’t necessarily see other comic artists as competitors, because I understand there’s room for everyone to succeed and no one artist has the same perspective or experience as another. Everyone has their own unique story to tell and that’s beautiful.

Also, start with small projects! You learn a lot about yourself as a storyteller with each project, and starting with many little projects instead of one big one will help you better understand how you function creatively, both practically (ie how long it takes you to sketch a page, or write 2000 words) as well as the content you like to write most.

Are there any other projects you are working on and at liberty to speak about?

Sure! I’m currently in the sketching phases of my first solo graphic novel Gutless. It’s a YA fantasy graphic novel about three outcasts who have to break free from their isolated lives to find community and belonging. Milo, a wooden knight brought to life by a lonely witch princess named Juniper, seeks what it means to be truly alive. Along the way they befriend the last mermaid in the world, and together the trio navigate friendship, the trauma of isolation, and just might be the only ones who can stop a deadly blight from destroying all natural life on Earth. It’ll be out with First Second books and is also being edited by the wonderful Kiara Valdez. I can’t wait to share it with you all when it’s finally out in a couple of years, but I promise it’ll be worth the wait. I regularly share sketches and development work on my socials, so you can find more about Gutless there.

Finally, what LGBTQ+ books (comics included)/authors would you recommend to the readers of Geeks OUT?

Genderqueer by Maia Kobabe is a beautifully honest autobiography that touched on a lot of similar experiences I had growing up as a nonbinary person. Ay, Mija! is a lovely middle grade autobiography by nonbinary cartoonist Christine Suggs about growing up queer and Mexican-American. I recently read Other Ever Afters by nonbinary cartoonist Mel Gillman, a collection of short fairytales that explore themes related to queerness and it’s one of my new favorites.

Interview with Maurice Vellekoop, I’m So Glad We Had This Time Together: A Memoir

Maurice Vellekoop was born in Toronto in 1964. After graduating from Ontario College of Art (now OCADU) in 1986, Maurice Vellekoop joined Reactor Art and Design, an agency for illustrators. In a more than thirty-five year career, Maurice Vellekoop has worked for top international editorial and advertising clients, published numerous zines, comics and books, created art for animation, and participated in art shows around the world.

I had the opportunity to interview Maurice, which you can read below.

First of all, welcome to Geeks OUT!

Thanks, what a pleasure to talk to you!

What can you tell us about your new graphic novel, I’m So Glad We Had This Time Together: A Memoir? What inspired you to create this project?

My graphic memoir operates on two levels: on one it’s a fairly straightforward story of a queer person growing up in an intensely Protestant community, and the resulting rift between a son and a loving mother who can’t accept her son’s sexuality because of her beliefs. On another it’s about a lifelong love affair with making art and delighting in cinema, books, music and theatre. It’s about the intense joy that can be found in art, but also the pitfalls of sublimation. That is, trying to find sexual and emotional fulfilment in fantasy and culture, rather than actual human relationships.

I was inspired to create this book, to paraphrase Quentin Crisp, for three reasons: I needed the money, I felt I had something unique to say, and it was something to do to pass the time!

How did you find yourself getting into storytelling, especially comics/graphic novels and memoir?

I was never a huge comics nerd as a child. I liked Mad magazine, and Illustrated Classics, but I was not into superheroes at all. In the 1980s I discovered RAW magazine and it blew my mind. I started drawing comics because of artists like Joost Swarte, Charles Burns, Sue Coe, Mark Beyer and Jerry Moriarty. 

How would you describe your artistic background?

I grew up in a house where art was revered. My parents had an art library that I grew up studying. I learned art history from a very young age by looking at picture books. Later I went to art school for illustration, inspired by older my sister, Ingrid. I idolized her. She wanted to be an illustrator, so I did too. Since graduating from Ontario College of Art (as it was known then) in 1986 I have worked mostly as an illustrator. I published short comics and zines in my spare time. The graphic memoir is my first full-length work.

As a creative, who or what would you say are some of your greatest creative influences and/or sources of inspiration?

I get inspiration from nearly everything! I love just walking down the street and observing how people present themselves visually. Beyond that I love and am inspired by the classic New Yorker cartoonists like Charles Addams, Mary Petty and Peter Arno. Classic Hollywood has always influenced me; everything from really cynical black and white film noir, to the saturated colours and high camp drama of 1950s Douglas Sirk ‘women’s pictures’. As a young man I gorged on world cinema from the 20th century in Toronto’s rep theatres. Fellini, Visconti, Renoir, Bunuel, Ray and Antonioni are my gods. I listen to a lot of opera while I’m working too, I love getting lost in long, dramatic music-narratives. I’m sure opera has informed my work. Figuring out how the composer tells the story in music is more exciting to me than the singing!

Maurice Vellekoop Photo Credit Lito Howse

Growing up, were there any stories in which you felt touched by/ or reflected in? Are there any like that now?

If you mean was there a lot of queer examples around, hmm, not really, you really had to dig to find them, and they weren’t usually very positive. What I did have were all the 1960s and 70s supernatural TV sitcoms, with their casts of freakish outsiders. Shows like The Addams Family, The Munsters, Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie were inspirational because of all the outrageous situations, and the idea that the weirdos were the normal ones, and normal people were dull and boring. Oh, those fabulous character actors too! 

The first positive representation of a healthy, self-accepting gay man I encountered was Michael York’s character in Cabaret. My sister took me to see it when I was around sixteen and I still treasure everything about that film. Today we are so lucky to have so much great LGBTQ2S material, thriving despite all the book-banning.  

Besides your work, what are some things you would want readers to know about you?

Ha! Audiences will find out plenty when they read the book!! Seriously though, I am a very dull, old, happily partnered person who is very fortunate to be able to go to my table every day and make art.

What’s a question you haven’t been asked yet but wish you were (and the answer to that question)?

What’s with the colour in your book? Why are some of the chapters in a limited palette, and some in full colour?

“I’m So Glad” you asked me that! The limited palette refers to my childhood consumption of children’s books. I bitterly resented books that were printed in duotone because I thought the publishers were just being cheap, and I only wanted to experience the richness of full-colour printing. As a grownup I now love the look of those books, and so most of the chapters are in two-colour. Also, a large part of the book deals with depression, and the world can seem flatter and less colourful when you are depressed. The full-colour pages occur whenever something really great occurs, just like when Dorothy lands in Munchkinland in The Wizard of Oz.

Finally, what LGBTQ+ books/authors would you recommend to the readers of Geeks OUT?

Hmm, taste is so personal, and as someone intensely fascinated by history, I tend to skew to writers from the past. I reread Noel Coward’s and Tennessee Williams’s stories regularly. I love Christopher Isherwood, who wrote Goodbye to Berlin, which Cabaret is based on. Cecil Beaton is a personal hero, his diaries are wicked fun. More contemporarily, I love Edmund White, Alan Bennett and and Jeanette Winterson. Lauren Hough’s recent essay/memoir book made me laugh and cry. Oliver Sacks’s On The Move was fantastic. The writer Colm Toibin is a great favourite. In comics I love the incomparable Alison Bechdel, as well as Jillian and Mariko Tamaki.

I would strongly suggest to every queer person that they read a biography of Oscar Wilde. (I love the Richard Ellmann one.) Not only will you be entertained by Wilde’s wit and seduced by his charm, but you will discover the roots of modern queer activism. His sensational trial for sodomy, and his passionate, public defence of homosexuality shone a light on what was, in the late 19th century, an illegal and secretive world. His imprisonment and early death were the tragic consequences of the cost of his sacrifice. It would be decades before the sodomy laws would be abolished, in the UK and elsewhere, and many more gay men would suffer, but we all owe a great debt to Oscar. He was one of our first heroes.

Interview with Anna Kopp and Gabrielle Kari, Creators of The Marble Queen

Anna Kopp is a children’s author who lives in Ohio with her husband, two boys, and two cats. Anna loves creating fantastical stories for children of all ages, from Minecraft picture books to young adult novels. When she’s not writing she’s playing video games or reading the latest books about lost princesses.

Gabrielle Kari is a northern California-based comic artist and illustrator with her weenie dog Pumpkin. She loves creating sapphic stories depicting morally questionable women.

I had the opportunity to interview Anna and Gabrielle, which you can read below.

First of all, welcome to Geeks OUT! Could you tell us a little about yourself?

AK: Thank you, I’m so excited to be on here! My name is Anna Kopp and I’m the author of THE MARBLE QUEEN. I was born in Russia and immigrated to the US when I was 11. After serving as an IT specialist in the US Army, I settled in Ohio where I now write books. Aside from being an author, I’m the local Pokémon GO Community Ambassador and currently heavily involved in the world of 3D printing and design.

GK: Hello, thank you for having me! My name is Gabrielle and I’m the artist for The Marble Queen. I’m a lesbian artist living in California and I graduated from college in 2018. Since then have been honing my craft to create stories I want to see in the world.

What can you tell us about your latest book, The Marble Queen? What was the inspiration for this project?

AK: THE MARBLE QUEEN is what an author would call ‘the book of my heart’. It’s about a princess who accidentally accepts a marriage offer not from the prince of a mysterious country, but his sister, and must navigate both a dangerous alliance and a confused heart. When I was a queer teen, the only sapphic media I had available to me was anime and manga. Revolutionary Girl Utena carved a place in my heart and inspired me to create a queer fantasy story with princesses, ballgowns, swords, and magic that I could only dream of. Now that dream has come true and I can share it with the world!

GK: Anna and I are both huge fans of Revolutionary Girl Utena. The anime series was huge part of my college years and made me want continue to pursue art as a career

As a writer, what drew you to the art of storytelling, specifically graphic novels/comics?

AK: I’ve written stories for as long as I can remember, but learning a new language was a big roadblock for me in terms of prose and finding the right words to describe the images in my head. When my agent, Claire Draper, proposed that I turn the traditional novel manuscript of THE MARBLE QUEEN into a graphic novel script, it was like the puzzle pieces slid into place. It was the perfect format for the way I think and create, I just didn’t realize it until then.

As an artist, what drew you to the art of storytelling, specifically graphic novels/comics?

GK: My dad used to talk about reading superhero comics growing up. It made me want to read all the thing he was interested in and from that it graduated into graphic novels and manga. I loved the way the stories melded word and illustration together and read anything I could get my hands on.

Anna Kopp

In addition to being a Sapphic romance, The Marble Queen also features some evocative representation when it comes to anxiety. How did you go about trying to represent that in your story?

AK: Anxiety was something I struggled with as a teen, but I didn’t know what it was, so I just thought there was something wrong with me. As I got older and had to navigate an array of physical and mental symptoms that impacted my life in various ways, I wanted to weave my experiences into my main character, and I hope at least someone out there feels a little less alone reading it.

GK: I wanted to depict Amelia’s anxiety as a creeping entity, a monster that follows her constantly whether she acknowledges its presence or not. Despite its oppressive force I wanted her to learn to coexist with her inner demons and overpower them.

How would you describe your creative process?

AK: I always start with a twist and build the story around it. I don’t even write anything down until I know the flow start to finish. Then I outline the chapters with names like ‘This is where x happens’ to make sure the main parts of the narrative arc are on track. Things move around during the writing process but organization is important to me so I don’t get overwhelmed.

GK: I have a lot of trouble illustrating chronologically. Most of the chapters in The Marble Queen were done out of order. I would work on pages I knew could be reasonably finished faster than pages that I could end up spending days on because a line wasn’t working out that day.

Growing up, were there any stories in which you felt touched by/ or reflected in? Are there any like that now?

AK: Sadly, I can’t say there were many stories I could see myself in growing up. Where would I find a queer Russian girl who would rather rescue the princess in the fairy tales? The only one that I really connected to was The Little Mermaid (the version she actually died in) and I didn’t understand why until much later in life. Luckily, now that queer books are all around us, I am finally catching up on all my childhood reflections, and it’s wonderful!

GK: When I was younger I read a lot of straight media and while I did love the stories I realized over time I was mostly obsessing over the female lead and her female friends. Most of the lesbian media I found was during the height of my anime obsession in high school. Today there’s a much broader selection of lgbt media and it makes me happy to know more is being made every day.

As a writer, who or what would you say are some of your greatest creative influences and/or sources of inspiration in general? 

AK: Aside from other books and my own experiences, it’s definitely rock music. I have a soundtrack for every book I write, and when I listen to it, I can see the story play out along with it in my head. For THE MARBLE QUEEN, Bring Me To Life by Evanescence is its’ theme song. I even made an OMV for it with the graphic novel panels I might share one day.

As a artist, who or what would you say are some of your greatest creative influences and/or sources of inspiration in general? 

GK: I love Mary Blair’s concept art for Disney’s Alice and Wonderland, I love the bright colors and expressive silhouettes. I have the Magic Color Flair: The World of Mary Blair in my book collection and its an immediate grab for any artistic slump.

What are some of your favorite elements of writing? What do you consider some of the most frustrating and/or difficult? 

AK: I love brainstorming because it’s like watching a movie where I control the characters. The most difficult part is making big decisions like who dies. I still argue with myself about certain character deaths and whether I should have done something different, but I know it’s out of my hands now.  

Gabrielle Kari

What are some of your favorite elements of drawing? What do you consider some of the most frustrating and/or difficult? 

GK: I love drawing hair, long tendrils, and swirls. Organic shapes are comfortable draw, but I hope one day I can master drawing backgrounds.

Aside from your work, what are some things you would want others to know about you?

AK: I love being creative outside of writing too. I make bookmarks, bookshelf signs (like THE BIG GAY SHELF for my own bookshelf), and other fun designs for 3D printing. If you want to check them out, you can find me on Makerworld under Kopp3D and on Etsy under BookshelfShowcase.

GK: I puppy fold my favorite parts in books so I can reread them later. One book I liked so much I ended up puppy folding a quarter of the pages…

What’s a question you haven’t been asked yet but that you wish you were asked (as well as the answer to that question)?

AK: What’s your favorite Pokémon? It’s Snorlax (he likes to eat and sleep, say no more).

GK: What’s your favorite minion in the hit MMO series Final Fantasy XIV?

It’s the Spriggan! I look forward to every easter event for their Spriggan themed quests.

What advice might you have to give for aspiring graphic novelists?

AK: Art is hard. It takes time. It takes so much effort. Whether you’re just the author or also the illustrator, try your best to not get hung up on the details. Capture the feel of your story without having to draw so much that it takes up a ton of time and doesn’t have significant impact. Give those wrists a break.

GK: Don’t give up. Keep working on the story you love, your personal passion and dedication to your story will be acknowledged and celebrated as long as you keep going. No one can tell a story like YOU can.

Are there any other projects you are working on and at liberty to speak about?

AK: I am (hopefully) going out on submission with a new project soon! It’s a graphic novel about a rock band that must perform as tribute to the god that protects their home or be sacrificed. And yes, it’s very queer!

GK: I’m working on an adaptation of one of my favorite classic novellas. I hope I can bring a story that impacted me deeply to more readers.

Finally, what LGBTQ+ books(including comics)/authors would you recommend to the readers of Geeks OUT? 

AK: I recently finished SO LET THEM BURN by Kamilah Cole and it was fantastic! If you like dragons in your YA, this is definitely one to pick up. For a darker, adult read, I always recommend THE BOOK EATERS by Sunyi Dean, because how can you not love the idea of eating books giving you their knowledge? For graphic novels, I just discovered ATANA AND THE FIREBIRD by Vivian Zhou and it is so sweet!

GK: Fun Home is a wonderful biographic novel by Alison Bechdel that you should read at least once in your life. Also recently I’ve started to read Kingfisher by Rowan MacColl on Tapas. I love the characters and I can’t wait to see where the story goes!