Interview with Author Alice Oseman

Alice Oseman was born in 1994 in Kent, England. She graduated from Durham University and is the author of YA contemporaries Solitaire, Radio Silence, and I Was Born for This. Learn more about Alice at aliceoseman.com. I had the opportunity to interview Alice, which you can read below.

First off, how would you describe your evolution as a writer? At what point did you
realize you could write professionally?

Well, definitely Digimon and Pokémon! Digimon – in the first three seasons, anyway – had a high level of complex character development and compelling relationship dynamics that has informed every single story I have ever written, which sounds a little silly, given it was just an anime about monsters for kids, but I think it’s true. It made me fall in love with ‘character writing’ and made me realise how much I loved seeing characters grow as people and become stronger and wiser over a long period of time. That’s probably why another of my big inspirations was the Artemis Fowl series, which is a story about an evil, conniving child genius learning to be a good person.

As for today, all sorts of things inspire me – books and movies and music and more. It’s hard to pinpoint one thing in particular.

How would you describe your writing process?

Different every single time. When I was younger, I imagined that I’d find writing books easier as time went on, because I’d had more practice. But the opposite was true. Every story I’ve written has presented new challenges that I’ve had to tackle in a completely different way. But generally I like to plan my stories very carefully before I start them, and then I write them chronologically.

It all began with your novel Solitaire, which has since expanded into a world occupied by your following novel Radio Silence and Heartstopper graphic novel series? How would you describe/ define your evolution as an artist/writer since then?

I like to think I’ve grown a lot as a writer and a human being since then. This year, I decided I wanted to edit Solitaire to make it more consistent with my work now. I wrote it when I was seventeen and was very much still developing as a writer and a human being, and while there are lots of things I love about it, there are lots of things that now make me very uncomfortable to read back. People are still discovering it for the first time due to its connection with Heartstopper, so I decided it needed to be updated a little. The edited version hasn’t been released yet, but I’m excited to be able to share and talk about that book with pride once again.

In an interview with The Guardian, you had stated “romance is not the center of your world.” One of the things I most admire about your work is your commitment to writing love stories that aren’t always necessarily romantic. Could you expand on your feelings about romance and love in the YA genre?

That is a very old interview now, I think! I have nothing against romances at all – I often love reading them, and Heartstopper is very much a romance with an array of romantic relationships in it. But I also think friendship can be just as powerful, or sometimes more so, than romance, and stories about that are sometimes not given the attention or celebration that romances are. That’s the theme of my most recent YA novel, Loveless.

Your most recent novel Loveless, centers an aromantic-asexual protagonist. In some ways this story seems to relate personally to your own identity as a person on the aro-ace spectrum. How was working on this story different from your previous writing experiences and what challenges did you face?

Loveless was the hardest book I’ve ever written for a variety of reasons. It is a very personal story, but no more so than Radio Silence was, and it’s definitely not autobiographical. But Radio Silence was hard to write too! Writing about something that has directly affected you requires you to dig up a lot of personal emotional stuff – stuff you usually like to keep buried inside. I was also constantly anxious about how people would receive the book, given that there is so much intense discourse surrounding aro-ace identities, both in and outside of the LGBTQ+ community. And my audience was bigger than ever – which is amazing, and I’m so lucky to have a big readership, but I was terrified of disappointing people. To add to all that, I found the plot incredibly difficult to figure out. I restarted the book many times and missed almost every single deadline I was set. I worked through Christmases, skipped gatherings with friends, and felt anxious every second that I wasn’t working on the book. By the final six months of working on Loveless, I wasn’t able to enjoy any aspect of my life until the book was done. Honestly, writing Loveless affected my mental health in a very negative way, and I still haven’t quite recovered from the experience. I don’t regret it, because I know it’s helped some people out there, and I’m so genuinely proud of how the book turned out. But I think I need a break from writing books for a while.

Hypothetically speaking, if the characters of your books or you yourself could interact with characters from any other fictional universe, where would they be from?

The only fanfiction I have ever written was a crossover between Solitaire and Artemis Fowl. Artemis Fowl is just such a fun character, I’d love to see any of my characters interacting with him and his weird magical world.

Can you give us some trivia about the characters from your books?

People often ask me what careers Nick and Charlie go into when they’re older! I imagine Nick plays semi-professional rugby for a few years before becoming a primary school teacher. Charlie likes books, so I always imagined he might go into publishing.

What’s a question you haven’t been asked yet but wish you were asked?

Anything about webcomics. I just love talking about webcomics. Ask me anything about webcomics and I’ll be happy!

What are some of your favorite webcomics?

Some of my faves include: 

Long Exposure by Mars – A teenage nerd and his bully gain supernatural powers after coming across a strange government facility. Romance and chaos ensues! https://longexposurecomic.com/

Charity Case by Malacandrax – An aspiring musician begins to develop feelings for both his new housemates. This is a beautifully drawn slow-burn polyamorous romance! https://tapas.io/series/Charity-Case

Rock and Riot by Chelsey Furedi – Light-hearted LGBTQ+ romance and high school shenanigans in the 1950s! https://tapas.io/series/Rock-and-Riot

What advice would you give to people who wish to make their own webcomic, be they writers, artists, or both?

Plan carefully! Going into a webcomic without a plan will almost certainly lead to either boredom or burnout. Whether you are the writer, artist, or both, plan your webcomic thoroughly. This might include a plan of the plot, developing the characters before you begin writing, practising drawing pages to find a style that’s comfortable, or anything else that expands your vision of the project. Webcomics usually take a very, very long time to make. You have to be sure you won’t get bored six months in!

What advice would you give to writers who are learning how to write and learning how to finish their own stories?

Have fun. Don’t worry about getting published or what anyone else might think of your work. Just focus on writing something that brings you joy. And write whatever you want! Horror, contemporary, poetry, fanfic, whatever you like. Just have fun.

Finally, what are some LGBTQ+ media (i.e books/ comics/ podcasts/etc.) you would recommend to the readers of Geeks Out?

I’d recommend the webcomic Long Exposure by Mars (https://longexposurecomic.com/), which follows two teenagers who acquire superpowers, use them very poorly, and fall in love in the process. I’d also recommend the manga series Given by Natsuki Kizu, which is a gorgeous YA story that explores queer romance and grief.

The Geeks OUT Podcast: Disney+ Marvel x Star Wars = $$$$$

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In this week’s episode super-sized episode of the Geeks OUT Podcast, Kevin is joined by Aaron Porchia, as they discuss the massive amount of shows/movies announced by Disney/Marvel/Star Wars, get excited about the multiverse of characters coming to Spider-Man, and celebrate Gottmik as the first trans man to join Rupaul’s Drag Race in This Week in Queer.

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BIG OPENING

KEVIN:  Marvel announces Disney+ series Ironheart, She-Hulk, Secret Invasion & Armor Wars, and Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special & I Am Groot shorts
AARON: Spider-Man 3 adds to cast and opens up the multiverse

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DOWN AND NERDY

KEVIN: The Prom, Star Trek: Discovery, Haute Dogs, Guardians of the Galaxy S.W.O.R.D.
AARON: Spider-Man rewatch, The Parkers, Memorial by Bryan Washington

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STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER

Nia DaCosta announced as director for Captain Marvel sequel

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THIS WEEK IN QUEER

New Year’s Day brings a new cast/season of Rupaul’s Drag Race, including first trans man

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CLIP OF THE WEEK

New trailer for Loki

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THE WEEK IN GEEK

MOVIES

• Marvel affirms previously announced movies including Ant-Man & The Wasp, Dr. Strange, Thor sequels, plus Shang-Chi, & adds Fantastic Four to the mix
• James Mangold to direct the “final” Indiana Jones movie
• Disney’s Raya and the Last Dragon to premiere in theaters & Disney+
• Disney+ exclusive movies include Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers, Pinnochio and Peter Pan & Wendy
• Cast confirmed for live-action The Little Mermaid
• Pixar announces new movie Lightyear, and Turning Red
• Patty Jenkins goes from Wonder Woman to Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
• New trailer for The Midnight Sky
• New trailer for Shadow in the Cloud

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TV

• New trailer for Marvel’s What If…?
• New trailer for WandaVision
• New trailer for Falcon and the Winter Soldier
• New season of The Mandalorian coming Dec. 2021
• Disney announces Ashoka & Rangers of the New Republic, spin-offs of The Mandalorian
• New Andor series based off Rogue One confirmed
• Disney announces new Lando series coming from Justin Simien
• Disney confirms Kenobi series for Disney+
• Star Wars shows announced including The Acolyte, Visions, & A Droid Story
• New animated series coming Star Wars: The Bad Batch
• New Disney+ series announced based on movies, Moana, Tiana, Zootopia, and Big Hero 6, and Pixar’s first series Win or Lose
• New Alien series coming to FX/Hulu from Fargo/Legion creator
• New trailer for Fate: The Winx Saga already accused of whitewashing
• Final season of Chilling Adventures of Sabrina has a Sabrina the Teenage Witch crossover
• New trailer for season 2 of Batwoman
• New teaser for Clarice
• New trailer for season 2 of Servant
• New trailer for The Watch
• HBO developing a reboot of True Blood
• New trailer for HBO’s new series 30 Coins

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COMIC BOOKS

• John Ridley introduces first black Batman in limited series

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SHILF

• KEVIN: Loki
• AARON: Hulk (from Thor 3 on) 

The Geeks OUT Podcast: HBO to the Max

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In this week’s episode of the Geeks OUT Podcast, Kevin is joined by Brett Manness, from The Comic Book Queers Podcast, as they discuss Warner Bros. shocking move to premiere 2021 movies on HBO Max & theaters at the same time, get excited at the news of a possible Naomi series from Ava DuVernay, and celebrate Elliot Page living his truth and coming out as trans and nonbinary in This Week in Queer. 

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BIG OPENING

KEVIN:  Warner Bros. to stream all movies on HBO Max while in theatres
BRETT: New cast members announced for Hawkeye

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DOWN AND NERDY

KEVIN: Uncle Frank, Freaky, The Happiest Season, The Christmas House, Fargo, The Other History of the DC Universe
BRETT: Mariah Carey’s Xmas Special, The Mandalorian, Fortnight, Daredevil

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STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER

The CW is developing a series based on the comic Naomi

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THIS WEEK IN QUEER

Queer actor/activist Elliot Page comes out as trans and nonbinary

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CLIP OF THE WEEK

New trailer for The Prom

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THE WEEK IN GEEK

MOVIES

• Peter Dinklage to star in Toxic Avenger reboot
• First look at Clifford the Big Red Dog

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TV

• Disney is canceling DuckTales with season 3
• PopTV cancels One Day at a Time (again)
• NBC cancels Superstore
• New teaser for Call me Kat
• New trailer for season 2 of Nancy Drew
• David Ramsey to appear on several Arrowverse shows
• New trailer for the final season of Chilling Adventures of Sabrina
• After the college admissions scandal, Felicity Huffman has landed on her feet
• First look at the dragons in the GoT prequel House of the Dragon

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COMIC BOOKS

• With X of Swords over we enter the Reign of X 
• DC announces a pair of queer centered YA stories with I Am Not Starfire & Poison Ivy: Thorns

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SHILF

• KEVIN: Daken
• BRETT: Daken 

The Geeks OUT Podcast: It’s a Winter Wonder(Woman) Land

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In this week’s episode of the Geeks OUT Podcast, Kevin is joined by Geeks OUT President, Nic Gitau, as they get into the spirit with a new queer holiday movie trailer “Dashing in December” and the early X-mas miracle of “Wonder Woman 1984” coming to theaters and HBO Max on 12/25, and celebrate The CW developing a Yara Flor centric “Wonder Girl” series for our Strong Female Character of the Week. 

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BIG OPENING

KEVIN & NIC:  Wonder Woman 1984 will hit theaters and stream on HBO Max on Xmas

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DOWN AND NERDY

KEVIN: Underwater, Lego Star Wars Holiday Special, Adventure Time: Distant Lands – Obsidian, Marvel Voices: Indigenous Voices
NIC: His Dark Materials S2 premiere, Animaniacs reboot!,1 week countdown to The Happiest Season];  [everything royal (White Queen, The Crown, The Princess Switch 2)

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STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER

The CW developing a Wonder Girl series centered on latinx character Yara Flor

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THIS WEEK IN QUEER

New trailer for Dashing in December

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CLIP OF THE WEEK

New trailer for Chaos Walking

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THE WEEK IN GEEK

MOVIES

• New trailer for Godmothered
• New teaser for Canvas
• Yet another trailer for the director’s cut of Justice League
• New trailer for Tom & Jerry
• New trailer for Batman: Soul of the Dragon

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TV

• Hulu renews Woke
• New trailer for The Wilds
• Mattel is developing a gameshow based on the card game Uno
• New trailer for the Minions Holiday Special
• HBO Max orders limited series of DMZ based on the comic & The Last of Us
• New teaser of season 2 of Batwoman
• This will be the last season of Black Lightning
• Charmed and The Conners casts trans actor J.J. Hawkins & Alexandra Billings in recurring roles

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COMIC BOOKS

• Vault Comics releasing queer sci-fi horror book Hollow Heart in Feb. 
• SiriusXM announces new set of Marvel podcasts 
• Marvel announces Marvel Voices: Legacy for Black History Month

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SHILF

• KEVIN: Beth Harmon (The Queen’s Gambit)
• NIC: Queen Elizabeth (White Princess) 

The Geeks OUT Podcast: Star Trek Discovering Gender

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In this week’s episode of the Geeks OUT Podcast, Kevin is joined by President of NYCGaymers, Raffy Regulus, as they discuss the new trailers for Adventure Time: Distant Lands – Obsidian & HBO Max’s Superintelligence, and celebrate CBS featuring new Star Trek: Discovery trans pride merch (with proceeds going to GLAAD) in This Week in Queer.

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BIG OPENING

KEVIN: After a small COVID outbreak on set, production on Chicago Fire shuts down
RAFFY: Nonbinary option in Call of Duty – also don’t vape into your Xbox

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DOWN AND NERDY

KEVIN: Over the Moon, We Are Who We Are, Legendary, Dash & Lilly, Punchline
KATE: Mandalorian, Miles Morales, Genshin Impact, X-Men X of Swords

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STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER

New trailer for Adventure Time: Distant Lands – Obsidian

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THIS WEEK IN QUEER

Star Trek: Discovery debuts new GLAAD benefiting merch

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CLIP OF THE WEEK

New trailer for Superintelligence

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THE WEEK IN GEEK

MOVIES

• New trailer for Happiest Season
• New trailer for Princess Switch 2
• A sequel to Bloodshot is in the works
• Dwayne Johnson announces a reboot of The Scorpion King is happening

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TV

• NBC announces their next musical will be The Grinch Musical!
• Wentworth Miller say’s he’s only playing gay roles, ending a Prison Break revival
• The CW is developing a Black Lightning spinoff centered around Painkiller
• New trailer for the second season of Pennyworth
• WandaVision will now premiere in January
• New trailer for The Hardy Boys
• New poster for AHS season 10 and American Horror Stories
• Netflix renews The Umbrella Academy
• New trailer for season 4 of Big Mouth
• HBO cancels The Outsider
• New trailer for The Wonderful World of Mickey Mouse
• Disney+ developing a Darkwing Duck revival

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COMIC BOOKS

• DC Comics names Marie Javins as new editor-in-chief
• Webtoon to begin producing Anime and live action series
• ReedPop announces the return of C2E2 & Emerald City Comic Con late 2021

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SHILF

• KEVIN: Sheik – Smash Bros.
• RAFFY: Diluc – Genshin Impact 

Interview With Author K. Ancrum

K. Ancrum is the author of  the award winning thriller THE WICKER KING,  a lesbian romance THE WEIGHT OF THE STARS and the upcoming Peter Pan thriller DARLING. K. is a Chicago native passionate about diversity and representation in young adult fiction. She currently writes most of her work in the lush gardens of the Chicago Art Institute. I had the opportunity to interview her, which you can read below.

First, how did you come to realize you wanted to be an author

 I’ve written books since I was 13, but I never really considered it to be a viable professional option until I was around 19. At the time I was writing on tumblr at lot and had started to write a web-book on there that was gaining a surprising amount of popularity. An agent who predominantly represented non-fiction began following the story and eventually reached out to me and encouraged me to consider submitting my work to agents who represent fiction. I think if she hadn’t approached me I probably would have continued writing just as much as I do today, but it would probably just be for my own satisfaction, instead of as a career

Who or what stories inspired your own personal realization as a writer?

A WRINKLE IN TIME was extremely influential and was the reason I started writing in the first place. I read it when I was 12 and I remember thinking “I want to make something that makes other people feel the way this book made me feel.”. I’ve mentioned this one quite a lot in interviews, but HOLES was also massively influential to me in regards to understanding that writing can be an intensely technical skill, from a very young age. 

A large theme in your books, especially in The Wicker King, is on negligent adults who either refuse to recognize teens in need or are oblivious to it? Could you expand on this topic?

There are so many ways that parents can be “not there” for their children and I think that a lot of the time only a few ways are discussed. 

The Wicker King was unique in that it showed many kids without present adults and how that impacted them, rather than orphaning the main characters for convenience. August had a mother who was physically there but emotionally unavailable in a way that wasn’t really her fault. Jack’s parents were physically absent and emotionally absent, but provided for him financially. Roger and Peter’s parents absence was more periodic but they formed a bond between each other that didn’t allow for outsiders very similar to Jack and August’s but less destructive. Rina’s parents straight up moved away to England and left her living in squalor as a barely-adult teenager.  She’s perilously lonely and friendless and pushes people away.  This book is filled with isolated children trying to make a house into a home: Rina letting August and Jack into her apartment and integrating them into her routine. August and Jack playing house and clawing each other to the bone searching for warmth. Peter and Roger letting August into their world and slowly forming a bond of trust with him. 

I had a lot of friends in similar situations and a lot of them didn’t make it out okay in the end. It was a bit of a relief to have this make believe space to pretend that there could have been a world where they were okay.

Your books, while all grounded in the real world, seem to contain otherworldly elements, relating to magical realism like in The Wicker King, literally being out of this world in The Weight of the Stars, or even fairy tale elements like in Darling. Did you intentionally set out for this or did the style organically evolve this way?

Its intentional. I like fabulism and I feel more comfortable there than in strictly fantasy or contemporary. A lot of real life seems to straddle the ordinary and extraordinary and I enjoy playing with that in my own work. 

Your upcoming book, Darling, is said to be a modern twist on the classic Peter Pan story. In what ways will the story touch upon the original tale and what ways are you planning to invert it? Also, fellow queer author, Aiden Thomas, is also coming out with a Peter Pan based novel, Lost in the Never Woods. Any theories for why this story seems to be resurging all of a sudden?

This is going to sound strangely straight forward, but it’s because the Peter Pan book copyright expires January of next year. There’s going to be an explosion of Peter Pan content for probably a year after. I plotted DARLING in 2013 and have been waiting for this to happen to release it. 

Hypothetically speaking, if the characters of your books or you yourself could interact with characters from any fictional universe, where would they be from?

This is less characters and more about the fictional universe but, I’m very enamoured with Narnia and the melancholy freshness of the worlds in that IP. The concept of life-supporting worlds/universes at different life stages: Some barely budding with small creatures in the light of a weak young sun and some in desolation and burdened under the weight of time cast red in the light of dying stars. The newness of creatures trying to find a home in these places, living their own individual creation myths. There is a lot about the books that is worth giving one disapproving pause. But I think I would like to be that place in the magician’s nephew where the world was so new that anything you plant becomes a kind of tree.

Within your writing and work in general, what messages do you want to give to your readers? What do you wish you had received from books as a young reader yourself growing up?

I wish there had been more LGBT  content. I actually went into this in a paper I recently wrote about fanfiction and I want to include an excerpt: 

We are in an interesting age of resurgence of mass produced LGBTQIAP+ media. As you all know, progress isn’t linear and its a bit too early to boast that “Things have permanently changed”, but currently we’re doing a lot better than we were just ten years ago. It’s recent enough for me and many other LGBTQIAP+ YA authors to vividly remember the time before these changes. It has also existed briefly enough that we can dubiously envision a time in our future without it. The maintenance of a place where marginalized communities can create and share artwork is vital, and has always been a part of LGBTQIAP+ culture. Fan fiction, small indie publishers and self publishing communities have been supporting marginalized writing for almost a century and show very little sign of being eroded by the shifting tides of public moral opinion or whims of mass production. Fan fiction in particular, is the cheapest and lowest risk form of community building within this art form. It is not a mistake or coincidence that nearly all of the mainstream published authors who admit to their past participation in fan fiction culture are women, people of color and LGBTQIAP+ people. Groups that have been historically underserved by mainstream media. Fan fiction isn’t a stepping stone to “real writing” or a place where people write weird NSFW. It’s a hurricane shelter: A place we can play in on an average day, and the most important place for our survival when the weather begins to look dangerous.

Are there any other projects or story ideas you are currently nursing and would be at liberty to say?

Yes! I’m working on an UNTITLED  Train Heist Novel. A cool UNTITLED cult novel for Scholastic and an adult novel about immortality called  WE STOOD ALONE, that hasn’t been purchased yet but my fingers are crossed!

Finally, what are some LGBTQ+ books or authors you would recommend to the readers of Geeks OUT?

Please please please buy Cemetery Boys by Aiden Thomas and Felix Ever After by Kacen Callender. They are both stunning and written with so much love.

The Geeks OUT Podcast: Supernatural(ly) Queer & Problematic

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In this week’s episode of the Geeks OUT Podcast, Kevin is joined by Kate Moran, as they discuss Supernatural problematically confirming a character’s queer identity, check out the new trailer for Shonda Rhimes’ Bridgerton, and celebrate Grant Morrison coming out as non-binary in This Week in Queer.

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BIG OPENING

KEVIN: Latest episode of Supernatural confirms a queer shipping
KATE: Kotaku publishes list of video game company execs and what campaigns they donated money

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DOWN AND NERDY

KEVIN: The Dead Don’t Die, Star Trek: Discovery, Queen’s Gambit, Legendary
KATE: Kipo, Korra, Steven Universe, Mandalorian, ACNH, Sims, Among Us, Phasmophobia

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STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER

New trailer for Shonda Rhimes’s new Netflix series Bridgerton

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THIS WEEK IN QUEER

Comic writer Grant Morrison comes out as non-binary

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CLIP OF THE WEEK

New red band trailer for Icelandic gay vampire movie Thirst

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THE WEEK IN GEEK

MOVIES

• New trailer for the Lego Star Wars Holiday Special
• Jordan Peele is producing a remake of The People Under the Stairs
• Ryan Reynolds’ Free Guy delayed
• Johnny Depp asked to leave Fantastic Beasts sequel
• New trailer for What Lies Below

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TV

• New teaser for Fox’s new animated series The Great North
• AMC announces a Walking Dead holiday special
• Hulu has canceled Castle Rock
• New trailer for HBO Max spanish language series Veneno

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VIDEO GAMES

• Due to COVID, Playstation 5 will sell exclusively online at launch
• Among Spider-Man: Miles Morales areas of representation, includes a deaf character

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SHILF

• KEVIN: Bolin
• KATE: Asami

Interview With Maia Kobabe

Maia Kobabe is a nonbinary, queer author and illustrator from the Bay Area, California. Eir first full length book, GENDER QUEER: A MEMOIR, was published in May 2019. Maia’s short comics have been published by The Nib and in many anthologies including THE SECRET LOVES OF GEEKS, FASTER THAN LIGHT Y’ALL, GOTHIC TALES OF HAUNTED LOVE, SHOUT OUT, ADVANCED DEATH SAVES and BE GAY, DO COMICS. Before setting out to work freelance full-time, e worked for over ten years in libraries.

When did you first realize you could tell stories through words and images? What drew you to the graphic novel art form?

I think I internalized the combination of words and images at a very young age, from children’s picture books, which remain one of my favorite forms of media. I started reading graphic novels (specifically, Japanese manga) when I was in junior high, when they started to trickle onto my local library’s shelves. I love both writing and drawing, so graphics novels seemed like the perfect merger of my two loves. 

Your book, Genderqueer, features one of the first discussions of asexuality I’ve seen in comics. If you feel comfortable, can you expand on your relationship to your asexual identity and what the process was like in depicting it?

Asexuality can be very hard to define or explain to people who haven’t spent time thinking about it, since it’s the lack of something, rather than the presence of something. I’m actually aromantic as well, which I think is maybe an even more important factor in how my life has developed. I received so much passive messaging from basically every single book and movie that eventually I would both fall in love with someone and also want to have sex with them. Though I did get crushes as a teen, I never had any desire to act on them. I think I kind of just kept waiting, thinking, well, is this romantic urge going to just hit me out of the blue at some point like I’ve been taught to expect? But it never did. By age 30 I felt confident saying “okay, enough time has passed that I think I can firmly say that romantic partnership is just something I don’t care about at all, and sex is interesting only at the level of curiosity.” I tried to depict this partly through trial and error experiences that helped me fumble towards greater clarity. 

Within the course of your graphic novel, you discuss how your identity has changed and evolved over the years, showcasing the beautiful and often frustrating reality of gender/sexuality identity exploration. Can you expand on that?

I spent a lot of time not knowing what I was, not having a label for how I felt. I can’t tell you how many countless pages of journal entries I wrote asking, “Am I gay, am I bi, am I a lesbian, am I a boy, am I a girl, am I neither, am I half and half” etc. This questioning took up a huge amount of my mental space, and I definitely wanted to hold the readers in that period of uncertainty, in that undefined grey area. 

In Genderqueer, pop culture plays a very big role, whether being mentioned within the form of comics/manga, figure skating, fantasy literature, etc. How as queer individuals do we respond and relate to the pop culture around us in terms of conceiving and understanding our own identities?

As a young queer person who only knew two or three out queer adults, and was uninterested in dating and sex, consuming queer media was my main form of exploration and discovery of queer identities. I think lots of young queer feel this need to research who we are, especially if we don’t see any role modes in our family or community. Many of the queer books I read as a teen remain my very favorites to this day because of how intensely intimate and emotional it felt to read them.

What’s a question no one has asked you yet or that you wish was asked more?

I wish more people asked me, “Should I write my own memoir?” so I could tell them yes!

What are some of your favorite elements of comics/graphic novel medium? What craft elements/techniques stand out to you the most?

One element I love is called a non-adjacent sequence. It’s a series of panels or even pages which are repeated, with a new twist, two or more times in a book. The idea is that the reader will either consciously notice this call back and flip back in the book to find the first example, or else be unconsciously influenced by the repetition and better understand that the two scenes are linked. In “Gender Queer” I used the same panel layout for pages 125 and 219. I also repeated the same plant motif on pages 66, 67 and 191.

Aside from Melanie Gilman, the queer/ non-binary mentor stated within your book, who are some of your other creative/artistic influences?

I am influenced by a lot of other cartoonists, especially ones who draw from their own lives: Mari Naomi, Lucy Knisley, Lucy Bellwood, Erika Moen, Raina Telgemeier, Alison Bechdel, Dylan Edwards, Ajuan Mance, Thi Bui, Sarah Mirk and Shing Yin Khor immediately come to mind. The comics journalism website The Nib has also impacted me a lot- I am both a reader of and a contributor to their site, and their latest anthology “Be Gay, Do Comics.” Many of my very first nonfiction comics were published by The Nib and I benefited greatly from working with their all-star editorial team. 

As a creative person, what advice would you give to other aspiring artists/writers?

Go forth! Be recklessly honest, be gentle, be bold, be strong, be soft. If you tell your own darkest secrets with a spirit of compassion towards your younger self, you will help readers heal their own wounds.

What are some things you wish to say to your trans/non-binary readers?

I love you, and we are family. 

Are there any projects you are working on at the moment and are at liberty to speak about?

I illustrated a YA prose novel called “We Are The Ashes, We Are The Fire” by Joy McCullough which is due out from Penguin Random House in Feb 2021. It’s got some very heavy themes, but also a renaissance-fair obsessed nonbinary teen character who I love very much. I am also developing my next full length graphic novel in collaboration with the nonbinary cartoonist Lucky Srikumar.

Finally, what are some LGBTQ+ comics or books you would recommend to the readers of Geeks Out?

Buckle your seatbelt, I have a lot of recommendations. I post 100 book reviews per year on Goodreads, so feel free to follow me on there if you want even more! But here are some comics with trans and nonbinary characters which I really loved: Grease Bats by Archie Bongiovanni (a slice of life comic – nonbinary main character) (author is also nonbinary)  

Heartwood: Non-binary Tales of Sylvan Fantasy edited by Joamette Gil (anthology of short comics, all with nonbinary authors)

The Avant-Guards by Carly Usdin and Noah Hayes (an ongoing comic series, one nonbinary character, one trans character)

Laura Dean Keeps Breaking Up With Me by Mariko Tamaki and Rosemary Valero-O’Connell  (a slice of life comic – a nonbinary secondary character)

Mooncakes by Suzanne Walker and Wendy Xu (fantasy YA comic – a nonbinary main character)

Snapdragon by Kay Leyh (a trans secondary character)

Stage Dreams by Melanie Gillman (trans character, nonbinary author)

As The Crow Flies  by Melanie Gillman (trans character, nonbinary author)

The Deep and Dark Blue by Niki Smith (trans main character)

O Human Star by Blue Delliquanti (trans secondary, nonbinary author)

Wandering Son by Takako Shimura (a manga series, multiple trans characters)

Paradise Kiss by Ai Yazawa  (a manga series, one  trans character)

On a Sunbeam by Tillie Walden (sci-fi comic – a nonbinary secondary character)

Happy reading 🙂


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The Geeks OUT Podcast: Watching the Mandalorian’s Timothy OnlyFans

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The Geeks OUT Podcast returns this week as Kevin is joined by Bobby Hankinson, as they discuss Cartoon Network’s new anti-racist PSA, swoon over Timothy Olyphant in the new season of The Mandalorian, and with election day looming we celebrate AOC reaching out to voters while playing Among Us as our Strong Female Character of the Week.

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BIG OPENING

KEVIN: Cartoon Network releases new Steven Universe Anti-Racist PSA
BOBBY: HBO Max orders 2 seasons of Tiny Toons Looniversity

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DOWN AND NERDY

KEVIN: The Connors, Superstore, Helstrom, Dept. of Truth
BOBBY: The Mandalorian, Hocus Pocus – Search for the Sanderson Sisters, NXT Halloween Havoc … Degrassi

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STRONG FEMALE CHARACTER

AOC reaches out to voters playing Among Us

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THIS WEEK IN QUEER

CW developing adaptation of Tom Swift as a gay black billionaire inventor

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CLIP OF THE WEEK

New trailer for the Saved By the Bell revival

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THE WEEK IN GEEK

MOVIES

• New teaser for Halloween Kills
• New trailer for The Midnight Sky
• New trailer for Songbird
• Amazon announces 2021’s Welcome to the Blumhouse movies

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TV

• New teaser for the second season of the Are You Afraid of the Dark reboot
The CW announces 2021 premiere dates
• First look at Javicia Leslie as Batwoman
• First look at Red Hood in the new season of Titans
• HBO brings in Clive Barker for their new Hellraiser series 
• Peacock cancels Brave New World
• New teaser for the final season of Chilling Adventures of Sabrina
• Oscar Isaac in talks to play Moon Knight

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VIDEO GAMES

• Gaming meets anime as Sony is buying Crunchyroll 
• Ellen Page to play gamer coach in 1UP

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SHILF

• KEVIN: Marc Spector
• BOBBY: Moon Knight 

Interview With Author Angela Chen

Angela Chen is a journalist and the author of Ace: What Asexuality Reveals About Desire, Society, and the Meaning of Sex. Her reporting and essays have also appeared in The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, The Atlantic, The Guardian, Paris Review, and more. I had the opportunity to interview Angela, which you can read below.

Where did the impetus for Ace come from? Has this project been something you’ve been ruminating on for a while?

The short answer is that I wanted to write about asexuality because I am ace and didn’t realize it until I was 24. More specifically, it was frustrating to me that the existence of asexuality and the ace lens felt so hidden—like something that I had to go searching for in order to find, instead of a perspective integrated into the way that we already think about sexuality and relationships. There were other books about asexuality out there, like The Invisible Orientation, but not many. I really wanted to write a reported book that included detailed narratives from people’s lives and, because I am a professional journalist, thought that I’d be able to do that. 

In previous interviews, such as the one with the podcasters of Sounds Fake But Okay, you noted a difference between talking to ace interviewers versus non-ace interviewers. Could you elaborate on this?

Absolutely. When talking to non-ace interviewers, or for publications that primarily have a non-ace audience, I receive a lot of questions asking me to define asexuality or to debunk misconceptions. It’s very ace 101. I really appreciate all the interest from non-aces and think it’s so important that we show that the ace lens can be valuable for everyone, but the questions necessarily are more basic.

When talking to ace interviewers, we can skip all the questions about what asexuality is and isn’t, and talk more about what it means and explore more nuances instead of focusing on definition. I also feel like I can be more critical of the ace community when speaking with ace interviewers. The community isn’t perfect—no community is—but when speaking to allos, I feel more pressure to emphasize the best parts of the community and that people are ace and happy. 

When talking to ace interviewers or an ace audience, I feel more okay talking about what I think the ace community could be doing better, or saying that sometimes I don’t feel great about being ace, and that should be okay too. 

In the book you provide a parallel between the term “Gold Star Lesbian” with the inspired term “Gold Star Asexual,” and the ways in which the asexual identity is being gatekept by this unattainable ideal. Could you expand on these qualifications and how in your words the “Gold Star Asexual” is a “fantasy and a false promise” (p.99)?

There’s still so much questioning about whether asexuality is valid. Doubters really want to explain asexuality away by saying that someone isn’t asexual, they’re just shy, or haven’t found the right person, or maybe it’s because of childhood trauma, or repression, or whatnot. Basically every ace person that I know has questioned whether they’re “really” ace, which can be exhausting and drain energy that could be better used elsewhere. 

Don’t get me wrong. I think it’s good to ask questions and explore and of course there’s nothing wrong with deciding that you’re not ace. But it’s telling that people really want aces to question until they discover they’re allo, whereas allos are not really encouraged to question whether they’re ace. It’s a double standard, because it’s okay to be allo but many people think it’s not okay to be ace. Instead of exploration being a valuable and good thing that you do to understand yourself, aces feel like we have to keep questioning ourselves because we might be deluded. 

Allos aren’t the only people who gatekeep either. Because aces are doubted by others, which is painful, it can be tempting to become gatekeepers ourselves. Especially in the early years of the community, there was talk about how people couldn’t be truly ace if they were disabled or if they were victims of sexual trauma, because that would “delegitimize” asexuality.

To my mind, that view is wrong. Very few people are gold-star aces, and we shouldn’t focus on that anyway. The purpose of the ace community is to be accepting and inclusive and help people find each other and share resources. Playing into ace respectability politics will make us turn on each other and exclude those who must be included and it doesn’t help us help each other and organize to change society. The way I see it, you can be ace for whatever reason and that’s fine, and it’s also fine if later you decide you’re not ace. (In general, I think it’s good to think of sexualities as fluid.) I think it’s important that aces fight compulsory sexuality and make it clear that you can have a happy life if you’re asexual, no matter why you’re asexual or for how long—and none of that relies on someone being a gold-star ace. 

Ace: What Asexuality Reveals About Desire, Society, and the Meaning of Sex is one the first asexual non-fiction books to be published by a “mainstream” publisher. Was there a lot of pressure riding on this book? What challenges did you experience in trying to publish it?

I think a lot of publishers thought that the book would be too niche—essentially, that because the ace population isn’t huge, there wouldn’t be a big audience for the book and it wouldn’t sell. Others thought that maybe it’d be too academic. I disagree with both assumptions. The book is a bit academic, but it’s also reported and has a lot of stories of people’s lives. And even if the ace population isn’t huge, it’s still valuable to have this book exist. Not to mention that, as I keep saying, the ace lens is valuable for allos too. 

I did feel like there was a lot of pressure riding on it, though I felt that from myself, rather than from my publisher. There’s such a void of ace representation and discussion in mainstream nonfiction books, which means that any new book on the topic is going to be expected to do so much and capture every sub-experience, even though that’s never possible for any book. I tried hard to make the book diverse in a lot of ways and cover topics like race, disability, and gender, as well as different types of ace and aro experience. But of course no book could cover all of ace experience. I said that right at the beginning, in the authors’ note. I tried to say what my limitations were, because I think that’s far more honest than not showing the limitations and pretending one book is representative. It’s not. There is so much more to say. There needs to be a rich ace canon. 

Considering one book can’t cover everything about asexuality, are their subjects you wish you to expand upon? Would you be open to writing a follow-up to Ace?

At least right now, I don’t think I’ll be writing a follow-up to Ace. I’m primarily a science and technology journalist and think my work in the immediate future will go back to focusing on that. But there are so many other subjects that I wish other aces would write books about. There should be books just about sex-repulsed aces, and books focusing only on aros, books about aroallos (who often get overlooked), more books about demisexuality and queerplatonic relationships. I feel like every chapter of my book could have been its own book! Plus, there definitely need to be books about aces outside of the Western world—there’s so much to say about the aspec experience and many who are more qualified than I to write about these experiences. 

While much of the book discusses the challenges and prejudices facing the asexual community, you also highlight some of the positive elements about this identity. Could you talk about that here?


Absolutely. Being ace can give you such a rich and valuable perspective on the world. Sometimes, it can feel like a superpower, like it makes you see things that other people don’t, like it makes you more perceptive. It can make you question so much about relationships (of all kinds) and sexuality that people take for granted. I think that, often, it can help you have richer and closer and more intimate relationships. Ace are some of the most emotionally and socially intelligent people I know. Like many other experiences that deviate from the norm, it makes you see the norm for what it is—and then it can bring more freedom by having you question it. 

What asexual resources/pop culture references would you recommend for the readers of Geeks OUT?

In terms of general ace resources, I would recommend Julie Sondra Decker’s book The Invisible Orientation, as well as The Asexual Agenda, which is a wonderful group blog. 


To be honest, I have never been the best at pop culture references—there’s a reason I’m primarily a science and tech journalist! (And writing the pop culture parts of the book was difficult for me.) There’s a lot of wonderful ace YA out there, which I think is super important. Alice Oseman’s Loveless comes to mind, for example, as does Claire Kann’s Let’s Talk About Love. This Goodreads list might be useful too

And finally, are there any projects you are currently working on or project ideas you are currently developing and are at liberty to speak about?

Not right now! Still trying to recover from 2020.


You can follow Angela Chen on Twitter @chengla